Message from @Xinyue
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He considered Christianity to be "an extension of the Jewish faith"
Look,
a position which he held in private but never made public
socialism emerged as the theory of society which is based around social ownership by the workers
you can't just take that,
and redefine it,
and call it "German socialism"
@Space Bird destroyed
with facts
and logic
that's like taking capitalism and defining it as anti private property all the sudden
it doesn't make any sense
ok, now are we talking corporations, or small businesses, i think thats the important difference
with socialism
i'm all for a corporative state, worker's councils etc
socialism = worker ownership of the bloody means of labour
no corporations, no
this isn't something invented by Marx either
this was present in the work of the Utopian Socialists already
Proudhon, Saint-Simon, d'Hupay, Owen, etc.
"German Socialism" is a non-term
other than possibly Strasserism
🤷 mabe
but i guess its all semantics
no these are actual terms that are used by economists, political scientists etc.
they do matter
sure. but its important to differentiate between natsoc and original soc i suppose
natsoc isn't really socialism
if by that is meant Hitlerism
if Strasserism then it is
I think its important to understand that Hitler was a dishonest actor
I think its important to understand that Hitler did nothing wrong
the other interpretation is that Hitler was an idiot who did not understand the terms he used
I prefer the former interpretation though
that he was dishonest
that he was trying to woo the supporters of KPD and SPD
and it did work indeed
i wouldn't say he was dishonest
but yeah, the use of red, using socialism in the name, he was trying to gain leftist support which was brewing with the rise of the communists,
mixed with the violence caused by the communists, the fact that 10-11 of the 15 leaders of the german communist uprising were jewish, was a perfect storm for hitler to rise to power,
also with the decadence of weimar and the starving people, many of whom prostituted themselves
or actually, i wouldn't say leftist support, but that did help
but rather people leaning towards the left, who wanted solutions to their crisis
And hitler saw what was happening in the ussr, etc etc and didn't want that, so he stepped in
I'm glad the night of the long knives happened
yes so he was misleading people then 😄
come on