like, idk, national capitalism. because that's what it actually is

no lol

if it was national capitalism it would look something like China

so basically, natsoc is the german expression of socialism
volkism

^

so socialism means nothing then

that's the logical conclusion

it has no meaning,

and anything can be projected unto it

dude do you want to read this or not lol so you can read

hurr it means nothing because it conflicts with my definition of it

joint ownership of the means of production is *the* common definition

not every concise plan can fit for every country. everybody has to make changes for it to work for their country

no no no

that's not it

its a very, very simple distinction

extremely general

joint ownership of the means of production. this could mean millions of different things

I'm not imposing anything super specific on this term

truth is, hitler to some extent tried to hijack the term socialism away from the marxists

only insisting on what is the common, accepted understanding

because fuck marxists and fuck their socialism

not just Marxists, this understanding predates Marxism

but again you probably don't read so 🤷

Proudhon, Owen, etc. they all shared this understanding

holy shit... it was wrong from the start then

marxism is just the final version of it

jus reed dis mah nigga

Marx considered himself a compiler and finaliser of thoughts and ideas that came before him

irrelevant

but do go on

no, it is the shitty "natsoc" is the irrelevant doctrine, the one that doesn't belong to the halls of socialist thought but which inserts itself into it because it itself has nothing original to provide

it has no content

if you mean that natsoc isn't marxist socialism, then you're right

u just keep spewing shit without anything to back it up

marxists don't get the monopoly on the term socialism end of story