I literally accept people I resent as socialists if they subscribe to the basic principle

do you not respond to my criticism? no let's call him a sectetarian

lol

your theory is bad

was Stolypin pro Abortion?

🤔

hehe

Abortion was a non-issue in Russia at that time. @AdorableStormtrooper

But he was a Christian so very unlikely.

commies legalized it

I got banned from a teen dating server for calling a black kid a monkey and telling him to get out of the country

Worker-cooperatives have workers own, operate and manage the means of labour; therefore, a market economy consolidated solely around worker-cooperatives is, in fact, a distributed socialist system realised in the worker-cooperative enterprise.

It is an inferior form of socialism, but since the means of labour are in fact owned and managed by their workers as equals, it *is* socialism.

**The only way to deny this is to define socialism as something OTHER than worker ownership of the means of labour**

ok.

if Stolypin wouldn't purge the Hook Noses like Stalin, he ain't no good

Georgians are epic people.

no

Georgia is Russia

"If they don't wear a turban, they aren't epic" - Adoraabibel-val Salah-Suturm

tbh Russia should take Georgia and Turkey should take Armenia this time :3

No

Russia should re-annex all the former SSRs

Annexation is gay.

Integration > colonisation

@Xinyue, do you support the DPRK?

on anti-imperialist basis yes, though not in ideology

Based and Redpilled

anti what

When putting the ">" it was meant to say "ideologically preferrable" rather than "realistically preferrable".

Russian annexation of Azerbaijan

🙅 🙅 🙅

"Worker-cooperatives have workers own, operate and manage the means of labour; therefore, a market economy consolidated solely around worker-cooperatives is, in fact, a distributed socialist system realised in the worker-cooperative enterprise."

Just because it has worker cooperatives does not exactly mean it is socialist, nor does it mean it has socialist elements, The capitalist is, as Marx said, simply capital personified. In a free market "socialist" society, the collective of workers is itself the "personification" of capital. Not only that, but under such conditions labor-power must be a commodity! For, if labor power isn't a commodity, then the market cannot be regulated by the law of value, it cannot exhibit the supposed rationality or allocative efficiency.

"It is an inferior form of socialism, but since the means of labour are in fact owned and managed by their workers as equals, it is socialism."

As i just refuted your socialism i do not think just because it has worker co-ops that it is socialist as i have demonstrated before; marx literally talked about this.

The only way to deny this is to define socialism as something OTHER than worker ownership of the means of labour

I just did? and kruschev is pretty anti-socialist but what i see

@Xinyue

they still add "ov" and "ski" after their names in Azerbaijan now

just sounds stupid

that's integration

@Loser Marx and Engels themselves considered many people who would not qualify as socialists under your definition, who came before them, as socialists. They are called "utopian socialists", and market socialism falls within this brand. Its not *scientific socialism,* its not *Marxian,* which is why we reject it (I used to be MarSoc until I realised its totally inviable), but it is no doubt socialism. Utopian socialism, perhaps, but it is socialism.

Marx didn't invent the term, nor did he pretend he did, unlike you.

no Socialist ever talks about why Communism would be a good thing

@AdorableStormtrooper Perhaps "integration" is an incorrect word. Think "trade partner" as opposed to "colony"

like NAFTA?

you want that?