Message from @Bee
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I'm beginning to think this Marx guy was wrong about a couple of stuff
so you want to flood the borders to drive down wages and race mix and to become a minority to create discontent with the proles so they can own the capitalists when they execute them?
epic plan
Till now i dont understand what communism is
it's been a 100 years since the first Socialist country was established and we only become more Capitalist as time goes by
Again a complete misrepresentation of everything I say
It comes in so many shapes and its results are totally separated from the ideology
W t f
It's ok to be a minority and not be in complete control. Things become more Democratic and there's less of the Statist variety of Nationalism.
I say that, over a century or so, the merging-together of nations will take place - for a myriad of different, sometimes contradictory reasons. It won't be sudden process.
Like I said, not in our lifetimes. We will see considerable integration among nations, we'll see mixing and more, but we won't see the wholesale disappearance of national majorities until the conditions for this are ready. And it will be somewhere in the 2100s, I think. Much integration, lots of it bourgeois no doubt, will happen in the 2000s though.
I'm glad you're convinced.
Oh my god. I'm not an idealist, I look at *material and technical conditions* and how they develop. Historical materialism, do you know what that means?
yes i do, but its really funny that you admit that international capitalism will play a part in instating international communism
This is not me *siding* with bourgeoisie, this is me saying *how bourgeois society will do X and Y*
It means you just ignore half the things about motivations of people.
that about right?
they are still the vehicle, which you ride on
Yes, the racist motivations of people is the reason why we all live in pure ethnostates....oh wait @Gerçek
truth is that people are not predispositioned towards this, which is why you guys need to struggle hard against the stream
So after communism it just becomes liberalism ?
uh yeah they are lmao
thats how tribes are formed
You guys ignore a whole lot about human nature, especially the spiritual element of it, even at times developing this great hatred of it.
thats how all biological collectives are formed
wasn't Hitchens a Socialist?
Literally are not, no. And tribes became kingdoms, kingdoms empires, empires into integrated politico-economic blocs (EU, ASEAN, ALBA, etc). The trend is always towards the *expansion* of a given political and economic system.
and i am for this, but for my people
But there's literally no reason apart from sentimentality of racial narcissism to do this
you can not make a single argument that is not that
People used to live under empires just fine, you don't necessarily *need* Nation States.
i can still cooperate with other races but why can't i stick to mine?
you can
You can stick to your white commune, and become a laughing stock for the observers
brutal
>laughing stock
lol ok
>hurr i'm a retard for wanting to be around people that are like me
you sound like a radical liberal individualist
which proves my point in intern. cap = intern com
you can choose to associate with who ever you like, most white people have white friends and family members, same goes for blacks ppl