so authoritarianism in this sense is an exception to the rule, the way to correct things or restore things, and even then should be subjected to relentless skepticism

i don't agree with that because saying that you are assuming that an individual is capable of rational thought all the time and actually create sustainable values for themselves..
not everyone is capable of understanding complex subjects like morality, not everyone is an intellectual

in our culture we don't give enough respect to authority

Most people seem willing to follow a trend along

Without giving it any thought

sometimes it's just better to listen to your Rabbi and your Parents even if they can't convince *you* rationally

your rabbi?

hmmmmmmm

Not everyone is an intellectual of course, but everyone is a member of society, has a vested interest in society, is connected to the society via social relationships and has both freedom and duty to partake in that society. Authoritarianism is individualism applied to leadership, it betrays true collectivism which consists in the whole people deciding for themselves what to do.

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The whole people cannot decide for themselves

They can, of course

i don't care about being loyal to these political theories

They ain't smart enuff

Neither are you

but you must decide for yourself

that was uncalled for

dayum

😂

You don't want normies taking the reigns any further than they already

have

In fact, if the people can't decide for themselves, they cannot carry out societal duty

Duty consists in agency

and cannot be otherwise

Not really

if you do not have agency, you are amoral

Why do you care about being amoral?

but this is true.. most people just can't create values for themselves, one person simply doesn't have the time or energy or interest to go into the depths of these things.

Duty does not really require you to have agency

its just doing what you're told

Only by partaking in the societal collective decision-making can people actually carry out a duty towards society, and we should urge people to better their knowledge about the world, how it works, etc. Currently we *really really do not*

most people like to be told the ways to be moral, so they can follow them with a predictable outcome being living a good righteous fulfilling life.

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That's empty and hollow and we should not encourage it

we're not all made to be decision makers

"Do what you are told"

is not a good way to live your life

Plenty of people are fine with it

yes and that's a flaw

there needs to be a place in our society for that kind of cognition as well

Its not a good way for you, its good for others

How is it a flaw