Message from @Zabriskie

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2019-01-17 18:29:12 UTC  

@Aki You’re right, it’s not an argument, it’s how our society works, and that type of discrimination is actually already illegal. If you are not accepting somebody into a country because it goes against “your own interest,” well who’s interest is it? Is it that specific border control employee? Is it ICE? Is it the whole country? I doubt you know the interests of the whole country. But if said immigrant will devalue your country based on just claims or actions such as criminal activity or refusing to work and contribute to society, but all means do not let them in. Otherwise turning away someone with no criminal record, who is eager to work and contribute to a country, solely because they’re gay or black is unjustifiable.

2019-01-17 18:29:24 UTC  

And poor American whites are more numerous as majority

2019-01-17 18:29:56 UTC  

@Zabriskie All you are offering is a moral appeal my dude.

2019-01-17 18:30:24 UTC  

It's not that I'm in favor of discrimination, it's that I think it's unavoidable

2019-01-17 18:30:26 UTC  

it will happen

2019-01-17 18:30:57 UTC  

and not just on a small scale either

2019-01-17 18:31:12 UTC  

So instead of offering any counter or point of your own just tell me what you personally take my points for.

2019-01-17 18:31:19 UTC  

You can reverse the roles

2019-01-17 18:31:21 UTC  

Me?

2019-01-17 18:31:27 UTC  

No, not you.

2019-01-17 18:31:30 UTC  

ah

2019-01-17 18:31:42 UTC  

@Zabriskie Wrong, in the long term to a similar appeal of moral sense even if an immigrant provides for short term economic gain(as economies fluctuate) a demographic can never be repaired. Damage to the ethnic composition to a state is irreversible.

2019-01-17 18:31:46 UTC  

Making a counter point to a moral claim is silly.

2019-01-17 18:31:47 UTC  

@Kazimir Malevich look up transracial adoption studies

2019-01-17 18:31:58 UTC  

The environment excuse has already been debunked

2019-01-17 18:32:14 UTC  

"Neeee my moral comaps is more moral then yours"

2019-01-17 18:32:19 UTC  

There's a genetic component

2019-01-17 18:32:21 UTC  

"Reeee"

2019-01-17 18:32:28 UTC  

Tell me are you pro internationalism/globalisation? (globalism for retards) @Zabriskie

2019-01-17 18:32:39 UTC  

Well that’s why you use quotas, to keep the native population far higher than the immigrant population. That way it has nothing to do with discrimination and you just cut it off after a certain number.

2019-01-17 18:32:44 UTC  

Absolutely fucking not.

2019-01-17 18:32:55 UTC  

Interesting

2019-01-17 18:33:05 UTC  

The amalgation of all races to one increases likelihood of globalisation.

2019-01-17 18:33:09 UTC  

Quotas huh? Tell me how you'd do it

2019-01-17 18:33:10 UTC  

That is already a form of discrimination.

2019-01-17 18:33:26 UTC  

Historically speaking ethnic nationalism has broken up huge empires stomping over many millions.

2019-01-17 18:33:33 UTC  

I’d only allow a number that would keep the immigration population half of the native population each year.

2019-01-17 18:33:43 UTC  

Why half?

2019-01-17 18:33:48 UTC  

Why not 1/4?

2019-01-17 18:33:53 UTC  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study
"The study found that "(a) putative genetic racial differences do not account for a major portion of the IQ performance difference between racial groups, and (b) black and interracial children reared in the culture of the tests and the schools perform as well as other adopted children in similar families."[4]"

2019-01-17 18:34:03 UTC  

It could be whatever you want, it’s just a personal preference.

2019-01-17 18:34:22 UTC  

Who is to stop a special interest group that is pro internationalism from promotion of racial mixing if the non native population is so significant? @Zabriskie

2019-01-17 18:34:36 UTC  

@Kazimir Malevich bs there are studies where they were raised under the same environments

2019-01-17 18:34:51 UTC  

And the results are still different

2019-01-17 18:35:00 UTC  

How does the amalgamation of races contribute to globalization?

2019-01-17 18:35:23 UTC  

"Look up studies except the studies that disagree with me"

2019-01-17 18:35:24 UTC  

ok

2019-01-17 18:35:25 UTC  

@Zabriskie well then how about as low as possible.

2019-01-17 18:35:34 UTC  

@Kazimir Malevich There has also been research done (including by Mr. IQ man himself) that found they had lower IQs. There are also some adoption studies like Snake just mentioned that found different results, though I'm going to admit I don't have any of this on hand

2019-01-17 18:35:35 UTC  

Like 0%

2019-01-17 18:35:39 UTC  

Anyway