Message from @Zabriskie

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2019-01-17 18:36:30 UTC  

Their education system isn't really as good as ours

2019-01-17 18:36:32 UTC  

Groups with a significant tie to a culture or ethnic group in terms of identity are far less subservient of a group not their own. @Zabriskie

2019-01-17 18:36:39 UTC  

They have a lot less opportunities

2019-01-17 18:36:49 UTC  

I am personally arguing against discrimination of citizens, not for more immigration. You already have these black people.

2019-01-17 18:36:59 UTC  

The economic globalisation comes with political globalisation in terms of the nation.

2019-01-17 18:37:21 UTC  

Not just on economic factor.

2019-01-17 18:37:39 UTC  

Things outside of a certain topic can have an affect on another.

2019-01-17 18:38:27 UTC  

I'm not arguing for it either

2019-01-17 18:38:38 UTC  

It's just an inevitability

2019-01-17 18:38:48 UTC  

Oh you’re relating to isolationism vs internationalism then

2019-01-17 18:38:52 UTC  

It's part of a multi-racial society

2019-01-17 18:38:53 UTC  

Well more autarky then isolation

2019-01-17 18:38:57 UTC  

What is an inevitability? @The Big Oof

2019-01-17 18:39:39 UTC  

@Zabriskie
You're relating to economic terms and autarky I thought?

2019-01-17 18:39:48 UTC  

No

2019-01-17 18:39:58 UTC  

When you brought up labor prices I assumed so.

2019-01-17 18:40:16 UTC  

When you said Globalization my mind went to economics but you were talking about it in a political sense and I didn’t pick up on that until you said so

2019-01-17 18:40:16 UTC  

@King Leopold II Discrimination

2019-01-17 18:40:22 UTC  

It's just going to happen

2019-01-17 18:40:39 UTC  

@Zabriskie Economic and political sense really go hand in hand.

2019-01-17 18:40:50 UTC  

Unity of races has nothing to do with economic globalization though

2019-01-17 18:41:04 UTC  

Economic globalisation can bring it about

2019-01-17 18:41:07 UTC  

Political globalization can influence economic globalization but not the other way around

2019-01-17 18:41:33 UTC  

Well actually let me rephrase

2019-01-17 18:42:11 UTC  

The factors of political globalization can impact economic globalization but economic globalization cannot be impacted by the factors of political globalization

2019-01-17 18:42:20 UTC  

As labor prices of other groups can be cheaper as well as a larger population leading to the reduction of the cost of labor many pro-globalisation would be in favor of importing foreigners.

2019-01-17 18:42:36 UTC  

I’m not pro globalization in any way

2019-01-17 18:42:52 UTC  

Therefore economic globalisation can increase chances of political globalisation.

2019-01-17 18:44:39 UTC  

I want immigrants to immigrate legally to work in American business places to contribute to the American economy and sell American made products. But I don’t believe that your claim is true, simply because wage is first and foremost based on economic factors, so immigrants coming into the US are going to be paid a lot more than if a company were to pack up and open shop in India.

2019-01-17 18:45:49 UTC  

Wage can be based off of demographic factors, landmass and resources never increase, however as population does so does the vast labor pool. Decreasing the price of labor.

2019-01-17 18:46:12 UTC  

It has to do with the factors of supply and demand, that’s what sets wages and prices. Sure immigrants can be paid less but that’s only because they accept less money, and in the United States it’s no longer a substantial difference, unless we’re talking jobs in construction or other basic no-skilled jobs, which cannot be globalized.

2019-01-17 18:47:23 UTC  

@Kazimir Malevich Children's background Number of Children Age 7 Corrected IQ Age 17 Corrected IQ
Non adopted, with two white biological parents 101 110.5 105.5
Adopted, with two white biological parents 16 111.5 101.5
Adopted, with one white and one black biological parent 55 105.4 93.2
Adopted, Asian or indigenous American parents 12 96.1 91.2
Adopted, with two black biological parents 21 91.4 83.7

2019-01-17 18:47:51 UTC  

Immigration is a factor in growing population, at immense rates creating a population not coming here to establish their own businesses but rather be employed at ones in the state already. Without the creation of new spots for labor and the increase of population the value of labor is devalued.

2019-01-17 18:47:54 UTC  

You should have read that link with a lot moar detail Kaz

2019-01-17 18:48:50 UTC  

I can also tell you why the difference becomes greater with age... and that it will become even greater when those children fly out of the nest

2019-01-17 18:49:12 UTC  

(a) putative genetic racial differences do not account for a major portion of the IQ performance difference between racial groups =/= there are no genetic differences.

2019-01-17 18:49:31 UTC  

You are correct that as the population increases, labor prices decrease because as more people come in needing work, there’s less of a demand for workers, but only in lower tier unskilled work, so immigrants that come in and study to become doctors or scientists will still be highly demanded, and as skill level increases, those are the jobs that get shipped out of the country along with the factory workers. So it’s a small amount of lower tier workers in factories only because they make the goods, but a large majority of occupations leaving are higher in the skill chain, like doctors, because of the medical innovations in France, for example. Doctors are leaving for France to make more money and learn modern methods of medicine.

2019-01-17 18:50:20 UTC  

@Zabriskie you're ignoring the fact that the unemployed population does inevitably increase.

2019-01-17 18:50:23 UTC  

The problem is that the results do not follow the interpretation Kaz.

2019-01-17 18:50:40 UTC  

"Scarr & Weinberg (1976) interpreted the results from age 7 suggesting that racial group differences in IQ are inconclusive because of confounding of the study. They noted, however, that the study indicated that cross-racial adoption had a positive effect on black adopted children. In support of this interpretation, they drew special attention to the finding that the average IQ of "socially classified" black children was greater than that of the U.S. white mean. The follow-up data were collected in 1986 and Weinberg et al. published their findings in 1992; they interpreted their results as still supporting the original conclusions. "

2019-01-17 18:50:47 UTC  

age 7 mind you