Message from @stem
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vs benis
i looked at the pronunciation guides on greek learning guides
How would you know what classical sounded like if erasmian is the closest we have to classical
and they basically don't understand the difference, for example, between omicron and omega
ο and ω
and epsilon and eta
Isn't omega just a longer o
Cons of Erasmian:
It's not quite fully there with the scholarly reconstruction of Greek; so some of the phonology and morphology of Ancient Greek still doesn't make sense. Particularly with diphthongs, and aspiration, if your local Erasmian doesn't do them accurately.
Extreme variability from country to country, because of the concessions each country's teaching system makes to the local language.
Speak in Erasmian to a Greek, and they'll look at you like a space alien. Or even worse, a German. Now, if you're speaking Ancient Greek to a Greek, you deserve to be looked at like a space alien. But they will genuinely have no idea what you are saying, or what language you are saying it in. Even diehard turncoats like me cannot help themselves from reading Ancient Greek out with modern pronunciation, if they speak Modern Greek: we need all the help we can get.
It's quite far from Koine. Koine was still in flux, and some critical changes were underway when the bit of Koine most people care about (New Testament) was spoken. But overall, Koine was much closer to Modern Greek than Homeric.
ε and η
omega is not just longer
And η just a longer eee
That's what I learned from my n Erasmus
your tongue goes in a different place
see, modern greek has simplified a lot
look at the chart here
it's more like a child would say it
Yes I know
Iotacization too
wtf is Iotacization
@Banjod Don't google it sir
I do
but it's always shit expanations
here is omicron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-mid_back_rounded_vowel
Maybe it's called iotacism
in english
Right Cafe the South didn't start rebelling during segregation and the cops can already confiscate your guns for basically any reason thanks to red flag laws.
and omega is a long one of these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_back_rounded_vowel
It's over
typo
Basically as greek evolved all η ι υι ει ηι οι etc sounded like ι
yes
and ancient greek had tones
Yeah I can't do sounds like that lol, only nords can do that
with thier oeoe stuff
but modern greeks have stresses, correct?
and not only did ancient greek have tones, but the tone would go up and down within the same vowel and diphthong