Message from @Banjod
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tell us stem
well
is scholarly close
if you look at the pronunciation guides on wiktionary.org
they have 5th century bc attic
which i think is considered classical
but that's not erasmian
Erasmus' reconstruction of Ancient Greek phonology, as modified in practice for teaching Greek in Western schools: Pronunciation of Ancient Greek in teaching
The scholarly reconstruction of Ancient Greek phonology: Ancient Greek phonology
Modern Greek pronunciation applied to Ancient Greek ("Reuchlinian" pronunciation):
@stem Provide some examples
i forgot the erasmian
but i was learning it
and i noticed the classical was different
The Chad Johann Reuchlin <:ahem:639979147782914084>
venis
vs benis
i looked at the pronunciation guides on greek learning guides
How would you know what classical sounded like if erasmian is the closest we have to classical
and they basically don't understand the difference, for example, between omicron and omega
ο and ω
and epsilon and eta
Isn't omega just a longer o
Cons of Erasmian:
It's not quite fully there with the scholarly reconstruction of Greek; so some of the phonology and morphology of Ancient Greek still doesn't make sense. Particularly with diphthongs, and aspiration, if your local Erasmian doesn't do them accurately.
Extreme variability from country to country, because of the concessions each country's teaching system makes to the local language.
Speak in Erasmian to a Greek, and they'll look at you like a space alien. Or even worse, a German. Now, if you're speaking Ancient Greek to a Greek, you deserve to be looked at like a space alien. But they will genuinely have no idea what you are saying, or what language you are saying it in. Even diehard turncoats like me cannot help themselves from reading Ancient Greek out with modern pronunciation, if they speak Modern Greek: we need all the help we can get.
It's quite far from Koine. Koine was still in flux, and some critical changes were underway when the bit of Koine most people care about (New Testament) was spoken. But overall, Koine was much closer to Modern Greek than Homeric.
ε and η
omega is not just longer
And η just a longer eee
That's what I learned from my n Erasmus
your tongue goes in a different place
see, modern greek has simplified a lot
look at the chart here
it's more like a child would say it
Yes I know
Iotacization too
the symbols are using the international phonetic alphabet
wtf is Iotacization
@Banjod Don't google it sir
I do
but it's always shit expanations
here is omicron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-mid_back_rounded_vowel
Maybe it's called iotacism