lets say im a refugee fleeing syria right

and i've fled into turkey

okay?

okay...

that would mean i am no longer vulnerable to being persecuted

i'm completely outside of where the conflict is

unless you are also persecuted where you move, but yeah

you are escaping persecution

i'm still a refugee, but i'm safe and the need to flee from conflict and persecuion is no longer valid since i'm not fleeing anymore

i guess?

the only possible reason i would want to leave turkey and go further into europe is for the economic prosperity

in effect, i am no longer a refugee

that's what you need to understand

i don't hate refugees at all, i think ppl have valid reason to flee syria and etc

so you think that refugees are gaming the system once they are no longer refugees because they enter Country #1

but i don't see how it is our responsibility to then have to babysit a huge chunk of the middle eastern population when they are in our country for economic reasons other than fleeing conflict

where is "our country"

USA?

i don't think they are necessarily gaming the system but i think they're trying to get into europe because it's economically affluent and they have better prospects there

im talking about the UK mainly but it's more broadly encompassing the entirety of europe

i would have been better saying continent

well, it probably has a lot to do with the conditions in Country #1 they flee to, right

country #1 = their native country

?

no

country #1 = country fled to as refugee

what reason would there be for that

if they are treated like animals, or live in mass poverty, or are discriminated against

or are starving, etc

Because afaik that logic could be extrapolated to literally every single country in Europe

and every single country in the world to be honest

literally every nation will have some capacity of hostility to newcomers, a lot of the time for perfectly valid reasons

well, in the US for example, there is no economic reason to not accept immigrants

well there is

particularly concerning wages, but thats another story

immigrants are a net benefit to our economy

again, incorrect but you're straying from the point

not incorrect

look at the actual data

(i know, i'm a 'science simp')

are you just gonna go off on some dumb tangent about something i can debunk again or do you wanna stick to the actual convo?