Message from @BIGMAN

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2020-02-28 16:22:30 UTC  

i can see that shit from a mile away

2020-02-28 16:22:39 UTC  

no, i'm using like

2020-02-28 16:22:39 UTC  

i'll even get the numbers for you

2020-02-28 16:22:42 UTC  

the global definition of refugee

2020-02-28 16:22:44 UTC  

lol

2020-02-28 16:22:45 UTC  

no you're just outright changing the definition of refugee

2020-02-28 16:22:46 UTC  

lmao

2020-02-28 16:22:56 UTC  

you seem to have a very narrow definition of it

2020-02-28 16:23:02 UTC  

which you probably learned from really dumb sources

2020-02-28 16:23:06 UTC  

which is fine

2020-02-28 16:23:10 UTC  

but you should learn the actual definition

2020-02-28 16:23:25 UTC  

you made your definition up and you're trying to distract from the actual content of what im saying

2020-02-28 16:23:26 UTC  

`Although the term economic migrant is often confused with the term refugee, economic migrants leave their regions primarily due to harsh economic conditions, not fear of persecution on the basis of race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership of a particular social group.`

2020-02-28 16:23:33 UTC  

an "economic migrant" is not a "refugee"

2020-02-28 16:23:53 UTC  

again here is the distinction you are failing to mak

2020-02-28 16:23:57 UTC  

lets say im a refugee fleeing syria right

2020-02-28 16:24:02 UTC  

and i've fled into turkey

2020-02-28 16:24:03 UTC  

okay?

2020-02-28 16:24:07 UTC  

okay...

2020-02-28 16:24:17 UTC  

that would mean i am no longer vulnerable to being persecuted

2020-02-28 16:24:23 UTC  

i'm completely outside of where the conflict is

2020-02-28 16:24:35 UTC  

unless you are also persecuted where you move, but yeah

2020-02-28 16:24:39 UTC  

you are escaping persecution

2020-02-28 16:24:45 UTC  

i'm still a refugee, but i'm safe and the need to flee from conflict and persecuion is no longer valid since i'm not fleeing anymore

2020-02-28 16:24:58 UTC  

i guess?

2020-02-28 16:25:01 UTC  

the only possible reason i would want to leave turkey and go further into europe is for the economic prosperity

2020-02-28 16:25:07 UTC  

in effect, i am no longer a refugee

2020-02-28 16:25:13 UTC  

that's what you need to understand

2020-02-28 16:25:28 UTC  

i don't hate refugees at all, i think ppl have valid reason to flee syria and etc

2020-02-28 16:25:42 UTC  

so you think that refugees are gaming the system once they are no longer refugees because they enter Country #1

2020-02-28 16:25:58 UTC  

but i don't see how it is our responsibility to then have to babysit a huge chunk of the middle eastern population when they are in our country for economic reasons other than fleeing conflict

2020-02-28 16:26:08 UTC  

where is "our country"

2020-02-28 16:26:11 UTC  

USA?

2020-02-28 16:26:19 UTC  

i don't think they are necessarily gaming the system but i think they're trying to get into europe because it's economically affluent and they have better prospects there

2020-02-28 16:26:28 UTC  

im talking about the UK mainly but it's more broadly encompassing the entirety of europe

2020-02-28 16:26:33 UTC  

i would have been better saying continent

2020-02-28 16:26:42 UTC  

well, it probably has a lot to do with the conditions in Country #1 they flee to, right

2020-02-28 16:26:53 UTC  

country #1 = their native country

2020-02-28 16:26:54 UTC  

?

2020-02-28 16:26:58 UTC  

no

2020-02-28 16:27:04 UTC  

country #1 = country fled to as refugee