Message from @BIGMAN

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2020-02-28 16:24:58 UTC  

i guess?

2020-02-28 16:25:01 UTC  

the only possible reason i would want to leave turkey and go further into europe is for the economic prosperity

2020-02-28 16:25:07 UTC  

in effect, i am no longer a refugee

2020-02-28 16:25:13 UTC  

that's what you need to understand

2020-02-28 16:25:28 UTC  

i don't hate refugees at all, i think ppl have valid reason to flee syria and etc

2020-02-28 16:25:42 UTC  

so you think that refugees are gaming the system once they are no longer refugees because they enter Country #1

2020-02-28 16:25:58 UTC  

but i don't see how it is our responsibility to then have to babysit a huge chunk of the middle eastern population when they are in our country for economic reasons other than fleeing conflict

2020-02-28 16:26:08 UTC  

where is "our country"

2020-02-28 16:26:11 UTC  

USA?

2020-02-28 16:26:19 UTC  

i don't think they are necessarily gaming the system but i think they're trying to get into europe because it's economically affluent and they have better prospects there

2020-02-28 16:26:28 UTC  

im talking about the UK mainly but it's more broadly encompassing the entirety of europe

2020-02-28 16:26:33 UTC  

i would have been better saying continent

2020-02-28 16:26:42 UTC  

well, it probably has a lot to do with the conditions in Country #1 they flee to, right

2020-02-28 16:26:53 UTC  

country #1 = their native country

2020-02-28 16:26:54 UTC  

?

2020-02-28 16:26:58 UTC  

no

2020-02-28 16:27:04 UTC  

country #1 = country fled to as refugee

2020-02-28 16:27:15 UTC  

what reason would there be for that

2020-02-28 16:27:30 UTC  

if they are treated like animals, or live in mass poverty, or are discriminated against

2020-02-28 16:27:36 UTC  

or are starving, etc

2020-02-28 16:27:38 UTC  

Because afaik that logic could be extrapolated to literally every single country in Europe

2020-02-28 16:27:44 UTC  

and every single country in the world to be honest

2020-02-28 16:27:59 UTC  

literally every nation will have some capacity of hostility to newcomers, a lot of the time for perfectly valid reasons

2020-02-28 16:27:59 UTC  

well, in the US for example, there is no economic reason to not accept immigrants

2020-02-28 16:28:05 UTC  

well there is

2020-02-28 16:28:13 UTC  

particularly concerning wages, but thats another story

2020-02-28 16:28:14 UTC  

immigrants are a net benefit to our economy

2020-02-28 16:28:20 UTC  

again, incorrect but you're straying from the point

2020-02-28 16:28:25 UTC  

not incorrect

2020-02-28 16:28:27 UTC  

look at the actual data

2020-02-28 16:28:32 UTC  

(i know, i'm a 'science simp')

2020-02-28 16:28:45 UTC  

are you just gonna go off on some dumb tangent about something i can debunk again or do you wanna stick to the actual convo?

2020-02-28 16:28:46 UTC  

there is a very, very, very small, like 2% downtick in certain wages

2020-02-28 16:28:54 UTC  

i have actual data on economics btw if ur really interested

2020-02-28 16:28:55 UTC  

but overall, it is a massive boon to the economy

2020-02-28 16:29:04 UTC  

alrigght guess we're doing this then

2020-02-28 16:29:05 UTC  

gimme a moment

2020-02-28 16:29:13 UTC  

are you gonna give me brainlet Sargon data

2020-02-28 16:29:20 UTC  

no i've got actual economic journals for you

2020-02-28 16:29:25 UTC  

where it says that service jobs have a very small downtick

2020-02-28 16:29:46 UTC  

because oddly enough this caricature you have made of your political opponents has very little validity and most people here actually have an education in economics or etc