Message from @BIGMAN

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2020-02-28 16:19:56 UTC  

you even admitted earlier that most weren't from actually war torn countries

2020-02-28 16:20:05 UTC  

doesn't that implicate it's your rhetoric here which is false

2020-02-28 16:20:11 UTC  

war-torn is not the only qualifier for 'refugee' though

2020-02-28 16:20:15 UTC  

somniostaticToday at 16:15
they're still from like, crime and violence-ridden areas though
people don't uproot their lives just for the fuck of it

2020-02-28 16:20:41 UTC  

Nuke Turkey

2020-02-28 16:20:44 UTC  

there are different qualifiers for 'refugee'

2020-02-28 16:20:46 UTC  

so anybody who grows up in a nation with crime immediately gains the right to go wherever they want in the world

2020-02-28 16:20:55 UTC  

"with crime"

2020-02-28 16:21:00 UTC  

that's a massive oversimplification

2020-02-28 16:21:02 UTC  

profoundly high crime rates rather

2020-02-28 16:21:10 UTC  

well it's more like...

2020-02-28 16:21:22 UTC  

if your daughter was being sold to cartels as a sex slave, and you want to escape with her

2020-02-28 16:21:23 UTC  

here's the thing that i want you to understand which you clearly don't understand right

2020-02-28 16:21:29 UTC  

or gangs are trying to murder you because of your religion

2020-02-28 16:21:37 UTC  

those would be refugees as well

2020-02-28 16:21:44 UTC  

most of the actual refugees fleeing the conflict aren't in europe, most of them are in places like Lebanon or Turkey which are surrounding syria

2020-02-28 16:21:55 UTC  

okay?

2020-02-28 16:22:03 UTC  

do you think refugees only come from Syria or something?

2020-02-28 16:22:07 UTC  

the ones which are coming into Europe are more often than not people who are attempting to get into Europe for economic reasons

2020-02-28 16:22:26 UTC  

You're playing semantics and trying to invent your own different definition of refugee to escape from my argument

2020-02-28 16:22:30 UTC  

i can see that shit from a mile away

2020-02-28 16:22:39 UTC  

no, i'm using like

2020-02-28 16:22:39 UTC  

i'll even get the numbers for you

2020-02-28 16:22:42 UTC  

the global definition of refugee

2020-02-28 16:22:44 UTC  

lol

2020-02-28 16:22:45 UTC  

no you're just outright changing the definition of refugee

2020-02-28 16:22:46 UTC  

lmao

2020-02-28 16:22:56 UTC  

you seem to have a very narrow definition of it

2020-02-28 16:23:02 UTC  

which you probably learned from really dumb sources

2020-02-28 16:23:06 UTC  

which is fine

2020-02-28 16:23:10 UTC  

but you should learn the actual definition

2020-02-28 16:23:25 UTC  

you made your definition up and you're trying to distract from the actual content of what im saying

2020-02-28 16:23:26 UTC  

`Although the term economic migrant is often confused with the term refugee, economic migrants leave their regions primarily due to harsh economic conditions, not fear of persecution on the basis of race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership of a particular social group.`

2020-02-28 16:23:33 UTC  

an "economic migrant" is not a "refugee"

2020-02-28 16:23:53 UTC  

again here is the distinction you are failing to mak

2020-02-28 16:23:57 UTC  

lets say im a refugee fleeing syria right

2020-02-28 16:24:02 UTC  

and i've fled into turkey

2020-02-28 16:24:03 UTC  

okay?

2020-02-28 16:24:07 UTC  

okay...

2020-02-28 16:24:17 UTC  

that would mean i am no longer vulnerable to being persecuted

2020-02-28 16:24:23 UTC  

i'm completely outside of where the conflict is