Message from @BIGMAN
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no
country #1 = country fled to as refugee
what reason would there be for that
if they are treated like animals, or live in mass poverty, or are discriminated against
or are starving, etc
Because afaik that logic could be extrapolated to literally every single country in Europe
and every single country in the world to be honest
literally every nation will have some capacity of hostility to newcomers, a lot of the time for perfectly valid reasons
well, in the US for example, there is no economic reason to not accept immigrants
well there is
particularly concerning wages, but thats another story
immigrants are a net benefit to our economy
again, incorrect but you're straying from the point
not incorrect
look at the actual data
(i know, i'm a 'science simp')
are you just gonna go off on some dumb tangent about something i can debunk again or do you wanna stick to the actual convo?
there is a very, very, very small, like 2% downtick in certain wages
i have actual data on economics btw if ur really interested
but overall, it is a massive boon to the economy
gimme a moment
are you gonna give me brainlet Sargon data
no i've got actual economic journals for you
where it says that service jobs have a very small downtick
because oddly enough this caricature you have made of your political opponents has very little validity and most people here actually have an education in economics or etc
oh i'm sure
your side is the super-logical one
also, can't i just say that any study you link, or any data you link is BS because i don't agree with it?
that seems to be what most people here do
Camarota, Richwine, and Zeigler (2018): There are No Jobs Americans Won't Do)
https://cis.org/Report/There-Are-No-Jobs-Americans-Wont-Do
i don't think it's necessarily just that "immigrants do jobs americans won't do"
This shows that of all 474 occupations in the united states, only six are majority immigrant (both legal and illegal). Those six count for only 1% of the american workforce and even in all of those individual fields, 46% of the workers are american born
that's kind of a separate argument
yeah i figured that since most of your ilk argue that, i'd get it out of the way first
are you citing that to prove immirgation is not a net benefit to our economy?
lol most of my ilk
> yeah i figured that since most of your ilk argue that, i'd get it out of the way first
@BIGMAN
i think that immigrant-dominated jobs are usually that way because corporations are able to keep wages inhumanely low in those fields by doing so, not that americans wouldn't do them
and i don't think that argument factors into whether or not it's a net benefit to our economy
As for immigration and wages, what you often see in both the USA and UK are foreign workers that are able to operate at a much lower cost (subsequently outcompeting native workers) as they are also willing to lower their living standards in order to both optimise profit margins and outcompete the native workers in terms of price