Message from @BIGMAN

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2020-02-28 16:26:53 UTC  

country #1 = their native country

2020-02-28 16:26:54 UTC  

?

2020-02-28 16:26:58 UTC  

no

2020-02-28 16:27:04 UTC  

country #1 = country fled to as refugee

2020-02-28 16:27:15 UTC  

what reason would there be for that

2020-02-28 16:27:30 UTC  

if they are treated like animals, or live in mass poverty, or are discriminated against

2020-02-28 16:27:36 UTC  

or are starving, etc

2020-02-28 16:27:38 UTC  

Because afaik that logic could be extrapolated to literally every single country in Europe

2020-02-28 16:27:44 UTC  

and every single country in the world to be honest

2020-02-28 16:27:59 UTC  

literally every nation will have some capacity of hostility to newcomers, a lot of the time for perfectly valid reasons

2020-02-28 16:27:59 UTC  

well, in the US for example, there is no economic reason to not accept immigrants

2020-02-28 16:28:05 UTC  

well there is

2020-02-28 16:28:13 UTC  

particularly concerning wages, but thats another story

2020-02-28 16:28:14 UTC  

immigrants are a net benefit to our economy

2020-02-28 16:28:20 UTC  

again, incorrect but you're straying from the point

2020-02-28 16:28:25 UTC  

not incorrect

2020-02-28 16:28:27 UTC  

look at the actual data

2020-02-28 16:28:32 UTC  

(i know, i'm a 'science simp')

2020-02-28 16:28:45 UTC  

are you just gonna go off on some dumb tangent about something i can debunk again or do you wanna stick to the actual convo?

2020-02-28 16:28:46 UTC  

there is a very, very, very small, like 2% downtick in certain wages

2020-02-28 16:28:54 UTC  

i have actual data on economics btw if ur really interested

2020-02-28 16:28:55 UTC  

but overall, it is a massive boon to the economy

2020-02-28 16:29:04 UTC  

alrigght guess we're doing this then

2020-02-28 16:29:05 UTC  

gimme a moment

2020-02-28 16:29:13 UTC  

are you gonna give me brainlet Sargon data

2020-02-28 16:29:20 UTC  

no i've got actual economic journals for you

2020-02-28 16:29:25 UTC  

where it says that service jobs have a very small downtick

2020-02-28 16:29:46 UTC  

because oddly enough this caricature you have made of your political opponents has very little validity and most people here actually have an education in economics or etc

2020-02-28 16:29:57 UTC  

oh i'm sure

2020-02-28 16:30:02 UTC  

your side is the super-logical one

2020-02-28 16:30:25 UTC  

also, can't i just say that any study you link, or any data you link is BS because i don't agree with it?

2020-02-28 16:30:31 UTC  

that seems to be what most people here do

2020-02-28 16:30:53 UTC  

Camarota, Richwine, and Zeigler (2018): There are No Jobs Americans Won't Do)
https://cis.org/Report/There-Are-No-Jobs-Americans-Wont-Do

2020-02-28 16:31:45 UTC  

i don't think it's necessarily just that "immigrants do jobs americans won't do"

2020-02-28 16:31:50 UTC  

This shows that of all 474 occupations in the united states, only six are majority immigrant (both legal and illegal). Those six count for only 1% of the american workforce and even in all of those individual fields, 46% of the workers are american born

2020-02-28 16:31:50 UTC  

that's kind of a separate argument

2020-02-28 16:32:06 UTC  

yeah i figured that since most of your ilk argue that, i'd get it out of the way first

2020-02-28 16:32:11 UTC  

are you citing that to prove immirgation is not a net benefit to our economy?

2020-02-28 16:32:16 UTC  

lol most of my ilk

2020-02-28 16:32:19 UTC  

> yeah i figured that since most of your ilk argue that, i'd get it out of the way first
@BIGMAN

2020-02-28 16:32:53 UTC  

i think that immigrant-dominated jobs are usually that way because corporations are able to keep wages inhumanely low in those fields by doing so, not that americans wouldn't do them