i'm more here to... see the way you formulate arguments and see what kinds of proofs you use

i gave you proof from an economic journal

I gave you an argument based on actual reason with application to the real world

all that says is that most fields are not majority-immigrant though

what more could you possibly want from me or anyone else here

yes it shows that we have minimal economic dependence on immigrants

i mean that study is totally irrelevant to me, unless i said, "immigrants do jobs americans won't do"

and that you could probably remove all immigrants from the workforce and there would be little to no differenc e

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1233423437286211585

i wouldn't say minimal

i mean, 49%, 46%, 36%, 34%, 35%, 27% of job fields is still a massive number

gay semantics again

it's a massive number in very small fields yes

but in the overarching economy it is next to nothing

35% of construction workers are not native-born

that is a gigantic part of our economy

it's just not a majority

and i'd definitely think it theoretically COULD be filled by Americans

but it's not

and if it was, wouldn't that just mean the field itself would become that much larger

and like i said earlier (which you agreed on is something which exists) - most of those non native born workers are displacing native born workers from the workforce since they are able to outcompete them artificially

but my argument would be, why are they being displaced (if they are)

i.e if they were removed from the workforce, the previously displaced workers would likely fill up the remainder needed after they were removed

not because immigrants are coming in and stealing those jobs, but because business owners and corporations are valuing slave-labor wages over actual job wages

although construction is a bad example of that

you make like 20 bucks an hour just sweeping floors in construction

im assuming that's legal work ofc

yeah

that's just how construction is

i mean, you get paid cash, so maybe it's not above board

ye i see

but i'm pretty sure it is?

i think the difference is, you blame the immigrants for that disparity, i blame the businesses

i think there's some validity behind blaming businesses ofc

we've spent the last 50 years gutting all regulations in this country

but there's still a huge deal of responsibility among the immigrants who know exactly what they are doing

but in a place like america, that should mean that the job market just grows with it

and studies do show that immigration is a net benefit to our economy

Here's the thing you don't seem to understand i wouldn't blame you for assuming

https://www.cbpp.org/research/poverty-and-inequality/immigrants-contribute-greatly-to-us-economy-despite-administrations

there, i linked a study