Message from @BIGMAN

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2020-02-28 16:39:50 UTC  

lol

2020-02-28 16:39:55 UTC  

what happened to that 'good faith' character you were playing earlier on the stream?

2020-02-28 16:40:16 UTC  

because it seems to me that you can't distinguish where and where studies are not relevant

2020-02-28 16:40:18 UTC  

you mean as i was called a faggot or nigger like, 500 times a second?

2020-02-28 16:40:23 UTC  

or... retarded, or autistic

2020-02-28 16:40:28 UTC  

or a "lonely old virgin"

2020-02-28 16:40:36 UTC  

ye good obfuscation there bud

2020-02-28 16:40:42 UTC  

you came in here and said u wanted to hear us out and etc

2020-02-28 16:40:44 UTC  

i was literally told that studies are BS if i don't agree with them

2020-02-28 16:40:48 UTC  

i do

2020-02-28 16:40:56 UTC  

and i'm listening to what you're saying

2020-02-28 16:41:02 UTC  

then why do you resort to this gay tactic of just going 'duhh doiii u dont like to read studieeee duhh'

2020-02-28 16:41:12 UTC  

but, instinctively, i don't agree with it because all i've ever seen about this issue, on the side you're arguing for, comes from a place of xenophobia and authoritarianism

2020-02-28 16:41:25 UTC  

any study i link is going to be dismissed

2020-02-28 16:41:40 UTC  

both of those statements are entirely built on assumptions which contradict what i've already told you

2020-02-28 16:41:45 UTC  

i'm more here to... see the way you formulate arguments and see what kinds of proofs you use

2020-02-28 16:42:01 UTC  

i gave you proof from an economic journal

2020-02-28 16:42:10 UTC  

I gave you an argument based on actual reason with application to the real world

2020-02-28 16:42:14 UTC  

all that says is that most fields are not majority-immigrant though

2020-02-28 16:42:15 UTC  

what more could you possibly want from me or anyone else here

2020-02-28 16:42:33 UTC  

yes it shows that we have minimal economic dependence on immigrants

2020-02-28 16:42:45 UTC  

i mean that study is totally irrelevant to me, unless i said, "immigrants do jobs americans won't do"

2020-02-28 16:42:46 UTC  

and that you could probably remove all immigrants from the workforce and there would be little to no differenc e

2020-02-28 16:42:53 UTC  

i wouldn't say minimal

2020-02-28 16:43:12 UTC  

i mean, 49%, 46%, 36%, 34%, 35%, 27% of job fields is still a massive number

2020-02-28 16:43:13 UTC  

gay semantics again

2020-02-28 16:43:25 UTC  

it's a massive number in very small fields yes

2020-02-28 16:43:31 UTC  

but in the overarching economy it is next to nothing

2020-02-28 16:43:38 UTC  

35% of construction workers are not native-born

2020-02-28 16:43:43 UTC  

that is a gigantic part of our economy

2020-02-28 16:43:49 UTC  

it's just not a majority

2020-02-28 16:44:01 UTC  

and i'd definitely think it theoretically COULD be filled by Americans

2020-02-28 16:44:03 UTC  

but it's not

2020-02-28 16:44:13 UTC  

and if it was, wouldn't that just mean the field itself would become that much larger

2020-02-28 16:44:27 UTC  

and like i said earlier (which you agreed on is something which exists) - most of those non native born workers are displacing native born workers from the workforce since they are able to outcompete them artificially

2020-02-28 16:44:43 UTC  

but my argument would be, why are they being displaced (if they are)

2020-02-28 16:44:54 UTC  

i.e if they were removed from the workforce, the previously displaced workers would likely fill up the remainder needed after they were removed

2020-02-28 16:45:03 UTC  

not because immigrants are coming in and stealing those jobs, but because business owners and corporations are valuing slave-labor wages over actual job wages

2020-02-28 16:45:17 UTC  

although construction is a bad example of that

2020-02-28 16:45:28 UTC  

you make like 20 bucks an hour just sweeping floors in construction