Message from @мιяαgє
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you talk about "valuing liberty and freedom"
and you are talking about Freedom vs Security?
like, I value have the liberty to criticize the goverment, but I'm fine with being patted down before getting on an airplane
yes freedom vs security is a big one
I don't know if I agree with that popular framing.
To adjust to your framing lets test the edges.
What is the limit between Freedom and Security?
Where is the line?
that would vary from person to person
It seems to fluctuate.
you need only look at the gun debate
the left is more than willing to give up their freedom to own firearms under the guise of security
i am not
But it doesn't effect person to person
it affects us all.
yes, and "us all" will never agree on what that line is
and what is t he root cause of this in your view?
uh.. that people are different and have different ideologies?
Ah ha
and all it takes is for an ideaology that does not vaule freedom to become dominant for a time.
sure
Why tolorate the intolorable?
our law is somewhat resistant to that
because we are a republic based on a constitution
with inalienable rights as far as the government is concerned
to prevent.. "tyranny of the masses"
i mean... what is tolerance in this regard?
isn't living with it the same as tolerating it @desperado
could be
i feel like when you talk about "intolerance of intolerance" you walk a path in which you become the monster you are trying to destroy
what's wrong with monsters?
not tolerating it means u have to do something about it and if given the chance I would
i mean, of course I would oppose anyone who wants to upend the constitution
#monsterslivesmatter
I oppose people who want to ban bump stocks and shit
that's just called disagreing
Same.
Is lineing up them in a firing squad and shooting them and their family
and sending them to gulags