Unless justified through a moral pretext

it is Universally wrong.

Depends on the culture.

jesus christ we're talking about the balance of liberty in the west

i'm just saying it's a spectrum

you talk about "valuing liberty and freedom"

and you are talking about Freedom vs Security?

like, I value have the liberty to criticize the goverment, but I'm fine with being patted down before getting on an airplane

yes freedom vs security is a big one

I don't know if I agree with that popular framing.

To adjust to your framing lets test the edges.

What is the limit between Freedom and Security?

Where is the line?

that would vary from person to person

It seems to fluctuate.

you need only look at the gun debate

the left is more than willing to give up their freedom to own firearms under the guise of security

i am not

But it doesn't effect person to person

it affects us all.

yes, and "us all" will never agree on what that line is

and what is t he root cause of this in your view?

uh.. that people are different and have different ideologies?

Ah ha

and all it takes is for an ideaology that does not vaule freedom to become dominant for a time.

to ruin everything.

sure

Why tolorate the intolorable?

our law is somewhat resistant to that

because we are a republic based on a constitution

with inalienable rights as far as the government is concerned

u don't tolerate u have to live with it @мιяαgє

to prevent.. "tyranny of the masses"

i mean... what is tolerance in this regard?

isn't living with it the same as tolerating it @desperado

could be

i feel like when you talk about "intolerance of intolerance" you walk a path in which you become the monster you are trying to destroy

what's wrong with monsters?

not tolerating it means u have to do something about it and if given the chance I would

i mean, of course I would oppose anyone who wants to upend the constitution

#monsterslivesmatter