Message from @Nicholas

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2019-01-09 16:53:07 UTC  

Kill me

2019-01-09 16:53:18 UTC  

NOT everything

2019-01-09 16:53:24 UTC  

Exactly

2019-01-09 16:53:36 UTC  

Sorry

2019-01-09 16:53:41 UTC  

I am dyslexic

2019-01-09 16:53:52 UTC  

And it’s sort of the same with orthodoxy

2019-01-09 16:54:24 UTC  

Yes, but Canonizations are considered infallible in Catholicism.

2019-01-09 16:59:46 UTC  

Yeah but palamas is not canon

2019-01-09 17:00:45 UTC  

But he is a Saint?

2019-01-09 17:02:34 UTC  

But that doesn’t mean that his ideas were canon

2019-01-09 17:02:51 UTC  

It means that he was a holy man

2019-01-09 17:02:55 UTC  

A very holy man

2019-01-09 17:04:11 UTC  

A heretic cannot become a Saint (at least in Catholicism).
Plus, heretic cannot be "holy"...

2019-01-09 17:15:11 UTC  

Yes they can

2019-01-09 17:15:31 UTC  

You can have a heretic who beloved in god but has a very different view on him

2019-01-09 17:16:07 UTC  

Epic
Does that mean a Muslim or a member of another religion can be holy?

2019-01-09 17:16:22 UTC  

Well

2019-01-09 17:16:30 UTC  

In the Christian god

2019-01-09 17:16:49 UTC  

There are orthodox saints that Catholics recognise

2019-01-09 17:16:53 UTC  

And vice versa

2019-01-09 17:18:29 UTC  

Palamas version of God is not Christian God, that's the point...
>There are orthodox saints that Catholics recognise
Yes, Saints that lived before the Great schism

2019-01-09 17:18:50 UTC  

It’s intentions is Christian

2019-01-09 17:18:59 UTC  

He just didn’t think it over

2019-01-09 17:21:06 UTC  

Your logic is flawed. Then every major heresy in Christianity was "Christian"...
Palamas distinction is somewhat similar to Nestorianism, which was a major heresy in the Early Church history.

2019-01-09 17:21:40 UTC  

What

2019-01-09 17:21:44 UTC  

How

2019-01-09 17:22:55 UTC  

I didn’t call Palamas a Christian

2019-01-09 17:23:41 UTC  

His intentions were Christian

2019-01-09 17:23:54 UTC  

>non Christian
>Saint
Epic

2019-01-09 17:27:07 UTC  

Non Christians cannot be Saints famalam.
I think that you don't know what Saint actually means...
It means a person in heaven.

2019-01-09 17:28:59 UTC  

In Christianity you are sainted for your work and dedication to god

2019-01-09 17:29:10 UTC  

Palamas was dedicated

2019-01-09 17:29:16 UTC  

But he was wrong

2019-01-09 17:32:02 UTC  

>In Christianity you are sainted for your work and dedication to god
Okay....
The word is not sainted, but Canonized.
Orthodoxy has the same definition of a Saint like the Catholics.
A Saint is a person in heaven.

2019-01-09 17:32:54 UTC  

Wel

2019-01-09 17:33:25 UTC  

A saint is acknowledged as holy or virtuous

2019-01-09 17:33:36 UTC  

Regarding the Christian faith

2019-01-09 17:33:44 UTC  

And

2019-01-09 17:33:47 UTC  

For example

2019-01-09 17:34:20 UTC  

If mother Theresa believed that god was multiple persons in the trinity

2019-01-09 17:34:31 UTC  

She would still be sainted