Message from @keldoclock

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2018-11-17 16:06:35 UTC  

I think it's aesthetic thing

2018-11-17 16:06:55 UTC  

Well, have you ever accurized a battle rifle? Its not the easiest thing.

2018-11-17 16:07:13 UTC  

So, you're confirming that this was a bad idea.

2018-11-17 16:07:26 UTC  

A battle rifle does not equal a DMR rifle

2018-11-17 16:07:32 UTC  

And it was pushed into DMR service

2018-11-17 16:07:36 UTC  

Standard M14 > EBR looks wise

2018-11-17 16:07:41 UTC  

The EBR was a bad idea

2018-11-17 16:07:43 UTC  

All around

2018-11-17 16:07:43 UTC  

It's like accurizing a FAL

2018-11-17 16:07:58 UTC  

It was pretty impressive to me at least that they took shit that was put in storage in the 80s and within 20 minutes per rifle produced a 1.5moa weapon that could be issued to a soldier

2018-11-17 16:08:18 UTC  

Sure. that's a logistical feat.

2018-11-17 16:08:23 UTC  

You’re taking a 3-4 MOA gun and kludging it into a 1.5 moa gun and expecting it to stay like that

2018-11-17 16:08:34 UTC  

But the problem is that it didn't stay that way

2018-11-17 16:08:38 UTC  

It was such a shitshow before. You'd ask for m14 and get m14 with single magazine covered in dust lmao

2018-11-17 16:08:41 UTC  

You need consistent performance in soldiers' hands

2018-11-17 16:08:56 UTC  

Something that is field servicable and durable

2018-11-17 16:09:01 UTC  

@keldoclock yes because you asked for an M14

2018-11-17 16:09:04 UTC  

Ask for more mags

2018-11-17 16:09:05 UTC  

Done

2018-11-17 16:09:15 UTC  

Tada you have a battle rifle

2018-11-17 16:10:18 UTC  

Says right in the ebr manual not to do anything but clean it &

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/508382218612375565/513385401533071386/Screenshot_2018-11-17-11-09-46-1.png

2018-11-17 16:11:14 UTC  

What's your point?

2018-11-17 16:11:52 UTC  

Im just saying that if you carefully put it back together and maintain the tolerances the accuracy is maintained

2018-11-17 16:12:01 UTC  

It's a military rifle

2018-11-17 16:12:07 UTC  

You damn well better make that thing boot proof

2018-11-17 16:12:21 UTC  

Fielded in a desert country

2018-11-17 16:12:29 UTC  

where everything just gets filled with sand

2018-11-17 16:13:43 UTC  

If a system is so fragile that removing the action one single time ruins everything, it's not appropriate for military service.

2018-11-17 16:14:14 UTC  

It was a 'let's do what we can do ASAP with what we have' and at the end of the day it was not a successful experiment.

2018-11-17 16:14:52 UTC  

I think you have perhaps too high expectations for military weapon

2018-11-17 16:15:15 UTC  

As long as it functions reliably some degradation in performance during lifetime is not really a big deal

2018-11-17 16:15:47 UTC  

...

2018-11-17 16:15:54 UTC  

Are you some kind of idiot?

2018-11-17 16:16:12 UTC  

this is a DMR rifle

2018-11-17 16:16:26 UTC  

It's specifically put into a position where there is a requirement of performance

2018-11-17 16:16:33 UTC  

M14 is shit

2018-11-17 16:17:04 UTC  

If it no longer performs, then it's just a big heavy battle rifle with less capacity than the guy next to you

2018-11-17 16:17:18 UTC  

Iron sight SVD for every russian soldier

2018-11-17 16:17:21 UTC  

🙆

2018-11-17 16:18:08 UTC  

To get what you describe out of M14 platform would require a run of new parts, new tooling etc. U.S. military wisely decided to use accurized m16 for DMR and buy precision parts from KAC and similar companies instead of building a whole new factory to make M14 DMR weapons

2018-11-17 16:18:24 UTC  

I’d like to point out there’s a story of a SSgt requesting an M14 for Iraqi freedom “just for the hell of it” and stacking some bodies with it.