Message from @Wyolet475

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2019-03-07 22:37:46 UTC  

>he's not even part of YANG GANG

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2019-03-08 05:32:59 UTC  

BROWN CLINTON BAD

2019-03-08 05:33:16 UTC  

even Colion knows she's brown clinton

2019-03-08 13:26:01 UTC  

**UBI is completely economically unfeasible and irresponsible**

* There are 253,227,594 Adults over the age of 18 In the United States
* To give each one $1,000 a month, a common figure floated, would cost $3,039 Billion
* Eliminating Social Security, Unemployment, Medicare, Medicaid, and other health entitlements would only free up $2,560 Billion
* You would have to eliminate the US military 4.8 times over to pay for UBI
* Last year the US Federal Government spent $4,094 Billion

You would almost need to double federal revenue for this to be workable, which is a nonstarter. UBI is pushed by people who don't care to think through the consequences or feasibility of policy. It's pushed because it feels like a good thing, not because it would be a good thing.

2019-03-08 15:27:02 UTC  

If you are part of the yang gang you are going to want to hang yourself the whole idea of a living wage for no work is some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard of

2019-03-08 15:35:32 UTC  

Incentive killing aside, is there something I'm missing with UBI?

2019-03-08 15:35:45 UTC  

Like, if everyone's getting 1000 a month, where is the money coming from.

2019-03-08 15:36:06 UTC  

From those who are forced to support it through their own paycheck

2019-03-08 15:37:41 UTC  

it is wealth redistribution, the lower class recieves money from the middle class

2019-03-08 15:37:54 UTC  

thr upper class dodges taxing as usual

2019-03-08 15:38:40 UTC  

that way middle class will be brought down which will create an even bigger difference between the elite and the mortals

2019-03-08 15:38:47 UTC  

at least that's how i see it

2019-03-08 15:38:50 UTC  

Yeah, it's literally just another welfare scheme

2019-03-08 15:38:55 UTC  

But why dress it up

2019-03-08 15:39:09 UTC  

You give the rich 1000 each and then take more taxes from them to give to anyone else

2019-03-08 15:39:24 UTC  

Just don't give the 1000 in the first place, take 1000 less in tax

2019-03-08 15:39:34 UTC  

But then it's just the same thing, just wealth redistribution

2019-03-08 15:39:37 UTC  

That's too smart

2019-03-08 15:39:37 UTC  

There's nothing new

2019-03-08 15:39:59 UTC  

The idea of not increasing taxes would aloow people to save money is a foriegn concept

2019-03-08 15:40:15 UTC  

So the govt does it for us with all the social security shit

2019-03-08 15:40:27 UTC  

Which if you are younger you are never going to fucking see

2019-03-08 15:41:45 UTC  

Mises managed to point out fairly succinctly as well that wealth redistribution just happens within each class. The working poor subsidise the non working poor, in the middle class, the families subsidise the childless, or the private schoolers subsidise the public schoolers or the smokers subsidise the non-smokers etc. You get to the rich and they simply pay so much tax but get so much in subsidies.

2019-03-08 15:42:04 UTC  

I buy gold, handling my own pension

2019-03-08 15:42:26 UTC  

Blair made fairly sure no one in my country will ever retire with a cent

2019-03-08 15:47:22 UTC  

Whoa whoa whoa, you're trying to say that the easiest way to give people more money... is for the government to stop stealing so god damn much of their money AT EVERY TURN!?

2019-03-08 15:47:38 UTC  

WHAT A NOVEL FUCKING IDEA

2019-03-08 15:48:06 UTC  

I got a novel idea

2019-03-08 15:48:14 UTC  

Disband the guberment

2019-03-08 15:48:51 UTC  

go back to small grug tribe units

2019-03-08 15:48:58 UTC  

I mean... the shutdown was a pretty neat showcase of why the federal government is irrelevant in your every day life, and that all you *really* need is a state/local government.

2019-03-08 15:49:21 UTC  

Wasn't even a real shut down tbh

2019-03-08 15:49:25 UTC  

So much shit was still open

2019-03-08 15:49:26 UTC  

"but muh EMS workers", yeah, pay them off state taxes.

2019-03-08 15:49:41 UTC  

I was hoping the USCG would go nuts and attack the capital

2019-03-08 15:50:23 UTC  

Y'know... I'd have been like "lol coasties", but they probably see more action more often than most soliders.

2019-03-08 15:50:40 UTC  

Coasties have training on par with the USMC

2019-03-08 15:50:47 UTC  

Which isn't something the other branches can brag about.

2019-03-08 15:50:52 UTC  

Fucking damn