Message from @Knefel

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2019-03-06 19:43:30 UTC  

k

2019-03-06 19:43:44 UTC  

I'm going to go with triple-HEAT is rendering conventional armor irrelevant

2019-03-06 19:44:05 UTC  

Which is why we're seeing a huge shift towards active protection and nanocomposite alloys.

2019-03-06 19:44:51 UTC  

Even wiki calls bullshit on that one

2019-03-06 19:44:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491045043633782784/552939683886137354/unknown.png

2019-03-06 19:45:16 UTC  

800mm ain't shit against composite tank armor

2019-03-06 19:45:32 UTC  

NATO tanks had that much heat resistance since the late 80s

2019-03-06 19:45:56 UTC  

Oh yes, you just conveniently ignore that it *defeats the spaced and reactive sections*

2019-03-06 19:45:56 UTC  

It's for light infantry

2019-03-06 19:46:26 UTC  

Triple-warhead is good against modern ERA that are designed to counter tandem warheads

2019-03-06 19:46:32 UTC  

🍿

2019-03-06 19:46:39 UTC  

but those are not mounted on tanks

2019-03-06 19:46:40 UTC  

Once you defeat reactive and spaced sections, the RHA equivalent of composite armor is basically nothing

2019-03-06 19:47:15 UTC  

NERA and NxRA is not multi-hit capable

2019-03-06 19:47:55 UTC  

unlike ERA, NERA doesn't lose effectiveness against HEAT that easily

2019-03-06 19:48:38 UTC  

Once ERA blows it's done, so all you have to do is get a precursor charge to detonate it before your main warhead pens the armor proper

2019-03-06 19:48:51 UTC  

And yet NERA is not multi-hit capable

2019-03-06 19:49:07 UTC  

Which is why we're seeing a shift in armor to ceramics like boroncarbide

2019-03-06 19:49:10 UTC  

🍿

2019-03-06 19:49:28 UTC  

but NERA arrays continue expanding for the few milliseconds it takes for the main charge to detonate

2019-03-06 19:49:49 UTC  

you can't delay the detonation or your warhead will squish against the steel

2019-03-06 19:50:05 UTC  

That's exactly how T-HEAT works

2019-03-06 19:50:11 UTC  

which is why tandem never had significant effect against anything but ERA

2019-03-06 19:50:13 UTC  

It literally stages the charges

2019-03-06 19:50:33 UTC  

yes, and it may be enough against fast-acting ERA

2019-03-06 19:50:40 UTC  

not against slower-acting NERA

2019-03-06 19:50:52 UTC  

Well apparently it is.

2019-03-06 19:51:05 UTC  

Again, NERA is being phased out in favor of cermaic liners.

2019-03-06 19:51:15 UTC  

Where?

2019-03-06 19:51:21 UTC  

The new whatever generation of MBTs

2019-03-06 19:51:25 UTC  

5th gen?

2019-03-06 19:51:28 UTC  

even the best ceramics can't do the job alone

2019-03-06 19:51:51 UTC  

there is no evidence of NERA being phased out, merely supplemented

2019-03-06 19:51:56 UTC  

By the way guys, I want to see who wins this debate so at the end, we should poll how many people had their minds changed

2019-03-06 19:52:02 UTC  

Oxford style debate

2019-03-06 19:52:36 UTC  

Okay so 4th gen MBTs

2019-03-06 19:52:37 UTC  

BOI

2019-03-06 19:52:44 UTC  

I had to check

2019-03-06 19:52:59 UTC  

We don't know shit about the 4th genners armor

2019-03-06 19:52:59 UTC  

3rd gens are being supplemented

2019-03-06 19:53:10 UTC  

shit's more classified than aliens