Message from @Wyolet475

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2019-03-06 19:47:55 UTC  

unlike ERA, NERA doesn't lose effectiveness against HEAT that easily

2019-03-06 19:48:38 UTC  

Once ERA blows it's done, so all you have to do is get a precursor charge to detonate it before your main warhead pens the armor proper

2019-03-06 19:48:51 UTC  

And yet NERA is not multi-hit capable

2019-03-06 19:49:07 UTC  

Which is why we're seeing a shift in armor to ceramics like boroncarbide

2019-03-06 19:49:10 UTC  

🍿

2019-03-06 19:49:28 UTC  

but NERA arrays continue expanding for the few milliseconds it takes for the main charge to detonate

2019-03-06 19:49:49 UTC  

you can't delay the detonation or your warhead will squish against the steel

2019-03-06 19:50:05 UTC  

That's exactly how T-HEAT works

2019-03-06 19:50:11 UTC  

which is why tandem never had significant effect against anything but ERA

2019-03-06 19:50:13 UTC  

It literally stages the charges

2019-03-06 19:50:33 UTC  

yes, and it may be enough against fast-acting ERA

2019-03-06 19:50:40 UTC  

not against slower-acting NERA

2019-03-06 19:50:52 UTC  

Well apparently it is.

2019-03-06 19:51:05 UTC  

Again, NERA is being phased out in favor of cermaic liners.

2019-03-06 19:51:15 UTC  

Where?

2019-03-06 19:51:21 UTC  

The new whatever generation of MBTs

2019-03-06 19:51:25 UTC  

5th gen?

2019-03-06 19:51:28 UTC  

even the best ceramics can't do the job alone

2019-03-06 19:51:51 UTC  

there is no evidence of NERA being phased out, merely supplemented

2019-03-06 19:51:56 UTC  

By the way guys, I want to see who wins this debate so at the end, we should poll how many people had their minds changed

2019-03-06 19:52:02 UTC  

Oxford style debate

2019-03-06 19:52:36 UTC  

Okay so 4th gen MBTs

2019-03-06 19:52:37 UTC  

BOI

2019-03-06 19:52:44 UTC  

I had to check

2019-03-06 19:52:59 UTC  

We don't know shit about the 4th genners armor

2019-03-06 19:52:59 UTC  

3rd gens are being supplemented

2019-03-06 19:53:10 UTC  

shit's more classified than aliens

2019-03-06 19:53:15 UTC  

It's really not

2019-03-06 19:53:23 UTC  

There's a handful of materials they can use

2019-03-06 19:53:57 UTC  

It's all coming down to nanoalloys that exploit carbon shenanigans

2019-03-06 19:54:35 UTC  

Which works out honestly because they're also really good radiation absorbers, so it cuts down on NBC protection weight.

2019-03-06 19:55:53 UTC  

There is still no evidence of them being used

2019-03-06 19:56:15 UTC  

We have no credible info on the armor of any Abrams since the M1A1HA

2019-03-06 19:56:24 UTC  

Here's your evidence, all the 3rd Gens are being reinforced with nanoalloy armor kits

2019-03-06 19:56:35 UTC  

we have no clue what the Germans will use for their 4th gen

2019-03-06 19:56:45 UTC  

We know the Type 10 is being built entirely of nanoalloys

2019-03-06 19:57:02 UTC  

The Germans don't know either, since they have 2 companies competing for the contract

2019-03-06 19:57:03 UTC  

We know the Armata uses a mixture of various nanocermaics

2019-03-06 19:57:31 UTC  

We also know that by weight nanoalloys are something like ~3x more effective than RHA

2019-03-06 19:57:43 UTC  

The type-10s armor was a weight-saving measure only, as main island nip bridges fold like buildings in Hiroshima

2019-03-06 19:58:09 UTC  

NERA has been 3,5 times as effective as RHA by weight since the 80s