even the best ceramics can't do the job alone

there is no evidence of NERA being phased out, merely supplemented

By the way guys, I want to see who wins this debate so at the end, we should poll how many people had their minds changed

Oxford style debate

Okay so 4th gen MBTs

BOI

I had to check

We don't know shit about the 4th genners armor

3rd gens are being supplemented

shit's more classified than aliens

It's really not

There's a handful of materials they can use

It's all coming down to nanoalloys that exploit carbon shenanigans

Which works out honestly because they're also really good radiation absorbers, so it cuts down on NBC protection weight.

There is still no evidence of them being used

We have no credible info on the armor of any Abrams since the M1A1HA

Here's your evidence, all the 3rd Gens are being reinforced with nanoalloy armor kits

we have no clue what the Germans will use for their 4th gen

We know the Type 10 is being built entirely of nanoalloys

The Germans don't know either, since they have 2 companies competing for the contract

We know the Armata uses a mixture of various nanocermaics

We also know that by weight nanoalloys are something like ~3x more effective than RHA

The type-10s armor was a weight-saving measure only, as main island nip bridges fold like buildings in Hiroshima

NERA has been 3,5 times as effective as RHA by weight since the 80s

The Type-10 is also built to be completely modular, so its armor is far higher than the base weight.

everything's modular if you try hard enough

all they did was make the base armor bolted on instead of welded

No, the armor is literally modular. They transport it at like 35 tons, and they can shove something like another 20 tons of armor on it as needed.

so you don't have to cut to change it

It's built like an M8 but not retarded

again- the only thing modular about it is the ease of mounting

and even the heaviest package is only like 8 tonnes

the Abrams armor weighs close to 20

evidence suggest the Type-10 is barely (if at all) more armored than the Type-90

For a 35-45 ton tank? Oh my, how terrible.

it just had to go under ~50 tonnes because bridges can't handle more

it wasn't even meant to replace the 90

but the 74s

which are 60s tech

Oh, and what about AMAP 4th gen panels being multi-hit rated against KE and CE penetrators.

Also nanoalloy based