Message from @Punished Ggnome
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It does, it's actually common sense when written out this way
The US has *never* had a disciplined ground force. Ever.
Just most Americans would never have the rose tinted shit fall off their eyes
I mean, in the grand scheme of things
We're the equivalent of a white Congo/third world revolution
It's no different than the Ivory Coast rebelling against France, except we're the same shit as those we rebelled against
So it was all groovy. Plus it removed debt from England so it worked out
Well I mean in every war we've fought it has been a universal fact that US forces will do whateverthe fuck they feel like at the time, with no discernable tactics or strategy 99% of the time.
Ah if only we were still that way today. Perhaps we could own weed and automatics
The revolutionary part.
Not the "not reading our own regulations/manuals/sticking to our own doctrine," part.
Like one engagement to the next against US forces and you can see totally different tactics and responses
Let alone between different branches
We had two ops in 2018 that were a massive shit show
One in Iceland, the other, Trident Juncture
How bad?
Iceland field op, simulation between small Icelandic force and U.S MEU.
U.S Marines were forced to surrender because they were caught trying to secure tents in hurricane strength winds.
wut
Perimeter guards pulled off to secure gear that was blowing away. Icelandic guys were doing recon as OPFOR, signaled to their main forces to take advantage. They encircled the Marines as OPFOR and caught them trying to stake down their tents and gear covers on their vehicles.
Then there was a rogue wave, or rather a large "break," that hit our two docked ships twice in a row.
OPSEC shut it all down, families were informed shit was fine but, a lot of Marines got hurt. Eleven were sent to critical care. The Icelandic troops were pressured to be quiet but, it's their home country they don't have OPSEC and don't give a *fuck.* Why? Because a boot ass officer sent those Marines into the ship to secure RHIBS and gear that was flying around in the bottom.
Jesus fucking christ
Edited with more data.
"yes I will send men in to a blender of tumbling gear while being buffeted by rough seas"
Best part? The Marines were too critical to be moved, so they left all 11 in a foreign country, the MEU continued on to Norway.
WHAT
Yeah, they got a liason working their recovery in the Icelandic hospital. A week later a Marine corps transport came and got em.
It's fucking stupid
Imagine waking up a week after getting hit in the face with a RHIB and you're in an Icelandic hospital. You don't speak Icelandic and have no idea wtf is going on until someone decides to speak English to you.
Just
why
Then in Trident Juncture, we were disrespectful cunts according to Norwegian and Swedish troops I know
yay
WHY IS THE MILITARY LIKE THIS
My best friend's father is a Swedish combat vet who deployed from 1970-1990. Infantry Captain. Did Royal guard duty. Worked for BOFORs as a private contractor too, so even in peace time he was reinstated and sadly had to get some in Iran while working in the ME on a water plant.
He said they act the same now, as they did back then. He personally thinks we are retarded. Which is why when he met me, he thought it was refreshing and it changed his views on Americans slightly.
The only reason I know this shit is because our allies don't have OPSEC and they don't lie to families when troops get fucked up.
The wave break was handled exactly like how we handled the collisions in either 2017 or 18. Only reason those came to light was because people died.
Another thing you might not expect is, @RoflTank the Icelandic populace is going from right wing diehards to commies.