Message from @Nic386

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2018-10-10 13:42:09 UTC  

Knowing FW they've probably abused the shit out of their molds and they don't want to splash out for replacements

2018-10-10 13:42:09 UTC  

variable leadership etc

2018-10-10 13:42:54 UTC  

tbh ive always liked that FW provided some full, more flavor focused armies to the game, and its sad that they are dropping them

2018-10-10 13:43:13 UTC  

though I guess not that many people would be buying them anyway after the recent price hike

2018-10-10 13:43:44 UTC  

fingers crossed GW do their own Renegade rules

2018-10-10 13:43:54 UTC  

since they already did that with traitor Knights

2018-10-10 13:44:42 UTC  

yeah but the GW traitor knight rules arnt as in depth as the FW ones where they?

2018-10-10 13:44:47 UTC  

but then again that was just to push $200 models

2018-10-10 13:44:56 UTC  

sort of yes, sort of no

2018-10-10 13:45:10 UTC  

also its basically rules to use an existing model in a different army

2018-10-10 13:45:29 UTC  

FW gave the option of Daemon Knights which are full-blown possessed, as well as traitor versions of their chassis

2018-10-10 13:45:54 UTC  

I guess renegades and heretics could be used by GW to get Chaos players to buy guard models and upgrade sprues, but there are some units they'd have to make new

2018-10-10 13:46:24 UTC  

actually the Guard models/upgrade sprue idea isnt too bad, they already did that with genestealer cults

2018-10-10 13:47:56 UTC  

thing is the reason you want them is kinda obvious

2018-10-10 13:48:12 UTC  

they're "fun" on their own but we just want soup like the corpsefuckers

2018-10-10 13:49:08 UTC  

didnt the recent FAQ ban soup list from battleforged in Tourney games?

2018-10-10 13:49:22 UTC  

no

2018-10-10 13:49:44 UTC  

they did offer genestealer upgrade kits for the cadian kit

2018-10-10 13:49:44 UTC  

so

2018-10-10 13:49:49 UTC  

renagade ones aren't that far fetched

2018-10-10 13:49:50 UTC  

what did it do then because when I read that rule thats what I got out of it

2018-10-10 13:50:00 UTC  

it just made it so you HAD to keep a single keyword for each detatchment

2018-10-10 13:50:13 UTC  

so if you want SM/IG soup, you need a full detatchment of each

2018-10-10 13:50:44 UTC  

which everyone was doing ANYWAY to keep the regiment/chapter/etc special rules

2018-10-10 13:50:54 UTC  

I thought it said though that Imperium, chaos, and aeldari didnt count for the rule

2018-10-10 13:51:15 UTC  

that was for within each Detachment

2018-10-10 13:51:41 UTC  

OH

2018-10-10 13:51:43 UTC  

ok

2018-10-10 13:51:57 UTC  

so only within each detachment, ok I get it now

2018-10-10 13:52:25 UTC  

although I still feel like this gimps an already crippled Ynnari

2018-10-10 13:53:04 UTC  

then again they were pretty OP from power creep last edition so I guess I cant complain too much

2018-10-10 13:53:12 UTC  

eh honestly it just makes it harder to spam the core Detatchments for a tidal wave of CP

2018-10-10 13:53:16 UTC  

still waiting on the codex...

2018-10-10 13:54:16 UTC  

and none of the Eldar armies have anything that could be truly considered a "tax" unit

2018-10-10 13:54:42 UTC  

I mean the point of Ynnari in my eyes was that units from different eldar factions can patch holes in each others armies while loosing faction rules for Strength from death

2018-10-10 13:55:00 UTC  

thats true as well though, its hard to find an Eldar unit that can be considered "Bad"

2018-10-10 13:55:53 UTC  

so the only real disadvantage is you'll have less CP to play with because you'll likely take a Drukhari contingent in a Fast Attack detatchment for example

2018-10-10 13:56:28 UTC  

thats true, and I've never really taken advantage of CP that much anyway

2018-10-10 13:57:16 UTC  

I'm actually considering taking R&H in a Fast Attack detatchment with Salamanders and Armoured Sentinels for some cheap fire support for my Iron Warriors

2018-10-10 13:58:00 UTC  

how are you getting away with Imperial and chaos in the same list?

2018-10-10 13:58:21 UTC  

Renegades and Heretics