Chaos usually have it short tbh

Oh no a heretic

despite my major army being deathwatch I think most of mine are xenos actually

well, its more like 3 imperial, 2 xenos, 1 chaos

I'm a loyal boy

I had a small ork and nid armies some time ago but

those are mostly with friends apart fromm a few models

Man just re-read the R&H index and it's just fucking depressing

Used to be able to pay for milita training which made them BS4+ but now you're stuck with Ork aim unless you take Cultists which only have access to Heavy Stubbers and no Orders

Im too pour for that.

I would say that "Its an index so its not going to be stuck like that forever" but its FW so its probably never getting an update

especially since im pretty sure they stopped sellign the models

yep Renegades are super dead

People are afraid that Elysians and Kriegers are on the chopping block soon I hear as well

only the corpsefuckers may take CP battery detatchments

I love the renagades and heretics tho

the

Knowing FW they've probably abused the shit out of their molds and they don't want to splash out for replacements

variable leadership etc

tbh ive always liked that FW provided some full, more flavor focused armies to the game, and its sad that they are dropping them

though I guess not that many people would be buying them anyway after the recent price hike

fingers crossed GW do their own Renegade rules

since they already did that with traitor Knights

yeah but the GW traitor knight rules arnt as in depth as the FW ones where they?

but then again that was just to push $200 models

sort of yes, sort of no

also its basically rules to use an existing model in a different army

FW gave the option of Daemon Knights which are full-blown possessed, as well as traitor versions of their chassis

I guess renegades and heretics could be used by GW to get Chaos players to buy guard models and upgrade sprues, but there are some units they'd have to make new

actually the Guard models/upgrade sprue idea isnt too bad, they already did that with genestealer cults

thing is the reason you want them is kinda obvious

they're "fun" on their own but we just want soup like the corpsefuckers

didnt the recent FAQ ban soup list from battleforged in Tourney games?

no

they did offer genestealer upgrade kits for the cadian kit

so

renagade ones aren't that far fetched

what did it do then because when I read that rule thats what I got out of it

it just made it so you HAD to keep a single keyword for each detatchment

so if you want SM/IG soup, you need a full detatchment of each