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The united states declined this until the end

If they had simply allowed complete surrender without molestation of the emperor, they would save the "bajillion american lives" and not have to intentionally kill 200k civilians

they also approached russia multiple times

The emporer was running a dictatorship, so I'm not sure how we could have let him stay without him re-building japan back into a war machine.

The atomic bomb was used at a time when Japan's navy was sunk, her air force virtually destroyed, her homeland surrounded, and her supplies cut off,

If you go into a country that is doing terrible things and don't remove the people who authorized those things then what was the point?

the emporer is a token figure

wh

Then what would letting them keep the emporer mean lol

hes a figurehead

I'ts not like we killed him

and Japan still has an empire today

We let them keep the emporer in the end

*emporer

Thats the irony

we could have accepted their surrender terms earlier and not massacred civilians if u think about it

the united states eventually accepted to leave the emporer be as to please the japanese masses and use him as a way to further push their influences

"It is my opinion that the use of the barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan ... The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons"

-Admiral Leahy, chief of staff to both american presidents during ww2

human like weapon, gice him a weapon he will want to use it

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Opinion, not fact

give the fatman tu us military, oh we need something to test it

hiroshima 180k death ? oh it was luck retry it

Even after the atomic bombing, Japan's cabinet and "the big six" were having trouble deciding on surrendering

nagazaki 80k death ? i think its a good weapon

It wasn't until 3 days after Nagasaki that they finally agreed on surrendering

theres also an analysis of the atomic bombs being dropped by the United States Strategic Bombing Survey

do u want that too

Wait, are we *still* going on about the bombs?

What does that have to do with it?

it basically says the atomic bomb nor full scale invasion was not neccesary for japan to surrender

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Dear Lord...

do u want the entire source

we're speaking about fatman

...This chat will last longer than Macron as President at this rate...

short?

yeah

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