Message from @Marker

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2018-12-26 19:26:09 UTC  

come on man

2018-12-26 19:26:57 UTC  

If you want to get pregnant, then why would you want an abortion?

2018-12-26 19:27:24 UTC  

Forcing someone to carry on an unwanted pregnancy, or forcing them to seek out an unsafe abortion, is a violation of their human rights, including the rights to privacy and bodily autonomy.

2018-12-26 19:28:32 UTC  

I don't see where your going with this. Abortion violates the right to life and if you willingly engaged in activities which would lead to a pregnancy you didn't want then it's your own fault.

2018-12-26 19:29:02 UTC  

Consenting to such activities is consenting to the possibility of pregnancy and giving birth

2018-12-26 19:29:02 UTC  

i will say it again, forcing someone to carry on an unwanted pregnancy is a breach of human rights lol

2018-12-26 19:29:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428023686445006848/527568637880434708/unknown.png

2018-12-26 19:29:28 UTC  

you talk a lot about the fetuses rights but don't talk about the pregnant womans rights?

2018-12-26 19:29:45 UTC  

why's that?

2018-12-26 19:30:46 UTC  

@Marker I just said, if you willingly engage in activities which would lead to a pregnancy you didn't want then it's your own fault. If you didn't want a pregnancy, you had the option to avoid engaging in such activities.

2018-12-26 19:31:28 UTC  

The only exception I see to this is in the case of rape

2018-12-26 19:31:39 UTC  

so therfore abortion over all should be illegal?

2018-12-26 19:31:43 UTC  

that doesn't make sense mate

2018-12-26 19:31:58 UTC  

isn't liberty a human right as well?

2018-12-26 19:35:15 UTC  

They consented to the activity, meaning they are also consenting to the possible affects of it. That choice is a liberty and the fetus an't consent to be aborted, can it?

2018-12-26 19:35:45 UTC  

it can't because it can't even speak

2018-12-26 19:35:55 UTC  

its not alive, its not there

2018-12-26 19:36:15 UTC  

So can we then kill already born children because they can't speak yet?

2018-12-26 19:36:35 UTC  

Don't abort it in the first place. If you don't want it, place it up for adoption after birth

2018-12-26 19:37:02 UTC  

that is an option yes but abortion is a right that women deserve and need for their safety

2018-12-26 19:37:23 UTC  

brb

2018-12-26 19:38:46 UTC  

As I have said multiple times now, women consented to the activities which could result in pregnancy, meaning they consented to the possible results of them. If they didn't consent (as in the case of rape), then it's harder to answer if abortion is alright

2018-12-26 19:39:18 UTC  

The moment a fetus has either brain activity or a heartbeat, it should be considered a living organism.

2018-12-26 19:39:36 UTC  

That doesn't matter, the right to safe abortion is more important than your personal beliefs. As I said 47000 women die every year because of unsafe abortions

2018-12-26 19:39:44 UTC  

Also bodily autonomy mates

2018-12-26 19:39:52 UTC  

@Kraiser Life begins at conception there's been no proof to contradict it

2018-12-26 19:40:38 UTC  

So trample one right to create a new one?

2018-12-26 19:40:45 UTC  

Abortion isn't a human right

2018-12-26 19:41:02 UTC  

When a person is a person is a philosophical question and shouldn't be an argument for or against abortions

2018-12-26 19:41:10 UTC  

As I stated, life for an *organism*, not a multicellular being. When it has working organs, I consider it to be a living animal.

2018-12-26 19:41:55 UTC  

@Marker it somewhat is, for if you were to abort a living being, wouldn't that ultimately be murder?

2018-12-26 19:43:23 UTC  

National catholic register

2018-12-26 19:43:27 UTC  

Nice unbiased source

2018-12-26 19:43:38 UTC  

I gave you 3 sources

2018-12-26 19:44:48 UTC  

Here's a source from the fellas who made the human rights lol

2018-12-26 19:45:36 UTC  

UN is gay

2018-12-26 19:45:37 UTC