Give them deth penalty

@Darkness In the case of rape it's harder to say if abortion is justified or not, but in other cases they shouldn't have been getting involved in activities that lead to pregnancy

Imean

If there's a heartbeat

Don't abort it

If there anit

Depends on how developed the fetus is

Again, there's no evidence that life dosn't begin at conception

Imean adoption exist

I recognize abortion is killing a child but do you really want more of the type of people who get abortions?

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first of all abortion is going to happen either if its legal or illegal, 47000 women die every year in countries where abortions are illegal because they lack the funding for safe and clean abortions

so making abortions illegal wouldn't stop them, it would only make them less safe

You shouldn't be involving yourself in activities that get you pregnant if you don't want to be in the first place

so we should make it illegal to not use contraceptives unless you want to get pregnant?

come on man

If you want to get pregnant, then why would you want an abortion?

Forcing someone to carry on an unwanted pregnancy, or forcing them to seek out an unsafe abortion, is a violation of their human rights, including the rights to privacy and bodily autonomy.

I don't see where your going with this. Abortion violates the right to life and if you willingly engaged in activities which would lead to a pregnancy you didn't want then it's your own fault.

Consenting to such activities is consenting to the possibility of pregnancy and giving birth

i will say it again, forcing someone to carry on an unwanted pregnancy is a breach of human rights lol

you talk a lot about the fetuses rights but don't talk about the pregnant womans rights?

why's that?

@Marker I just said, if you willingly engage in activities which would lead to a pregnancy you didn't want then it's your own fault. If you didn't want a pregnancy, you had the option to avoid engaging in such activities.

The only exception I see to this is in the case of rape

so therfore abortion over all should be illegal?

that doesn't make sense mate

isn't liberty a human right as well?

They consented to the activity, meaning they are also consenting to the possible affects of it. That choice is a liberty and the fetus an't consent to be aborted, can it?

it can't because it can't even speak

its not alive, its not there

So can we then kill already born children because they can't speak yet?

Don't abort it in the first place. If you don't want it, place it up for adoption after birth

that is an option yes but abortion is a right that women deserve and need for their safety

brb

As I have said multiple times now, women consented to the activities which could result in pregnancy, meaning they consented to the possible results of them. If they didn't consent (as in the case of rape), then it's harder to answer if abortion is alright

The moment a fetus has either brain activity or a heartbeat, it should be considered a living organism.

That doesn't matter, the right to safe abortion is more important than your personal beliefs. As I said 47000 women die every year because of unsafe abortions

Also bodily autonomy mates

@Kraiser Life begins at conception there's been no proof to contradict it