Message from @thadeal4real
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@felldie1496 If one historian isn't 100% accurate, no sources can be accurate?
Man, physics isn't real.
People were wrong about physics *a lot* through history, so I guess the whole field is a wash.
neither is Maths, right?
@Five, Seven, and Two Pretty sure that's not what he meant.
Physics isn't real? Lol
There is probably more evidence to suggest that Jesus is real than dark energy lol
@Psychedelic Corpse Fucker Dude said if one historian was wrong, he has grounds to reject the others.
@frugalcasper Men work together to achieve a goal to improve their mortal circumstances, not to please a superior being.
Brb, just going to float to the liquor store.
Okay, let's assume that Jesus existed.
There is no proof about his "miracles", and if he died in the crucifixion. It could be some random dude named Jesus that other dudes took to make a magical history.
By that logic, I can disregard gravity's effect on time because Galileo came up with some nonsense about what happens to planets observed through the sun's gravitational field.
@SH3LLSH0CK What i mean is that faith does allow men to bond with others. Our minds can work really well we we are united under a common goal. That goal can be faith. I'm not saying it can't be something else
@felldie1496 Never said a word about his miracles, but there was a dude named Jesus who died under crucifixion and kicked off a religious firestorm in the eastern Roman Empire that scared the fuck out of the local politicians.
There is no correlation.
We can prove physics because if we make experiments about an specific theory, that theory predicts what the experiment has done. This has nothing to do with history.
I would argue that jesus died on a stake..
Omg im gonna say it
We can only do so much to prove the existence of Jesus and to my understand most people who have looked into this admit that there was a dude named Jesus and that a lot of the bible can be correlated to reality. Were not talking the miracles here
@Psychedelic Corpse Fucker Considering what the Romans called "crucifixion" covered everything from staking people to tying them to tree branches to die, it's really tough to say.
you put da ball in da hoop?
@Five, Seven, and Two I agree, bud.
That's why science is backed by mathematics, not by a random dude telling that's true.
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Jesus stood against the jewish conformity, They asked the romans to step in and kill the "heretic"
The tism is getting real
So
I uh put tha uh ball in da hoop
I mean, we're just having a friendly debate.
I put tha ball in da uh hoop
@felldie1496 If "a random dude telling that's true" is an unacceptable criteria for you, you're going to be really sad to hear about most of history.
They didnt like the whole, "saved thru grace, not your actions" concept.
Don't see how all this discussion about the historically accuracy of those represented in religious texts has much to do with the validity of the religion. I would be more concerned about the parts of religion that are blatantly misleading and destructive, such as belief in an afterlife.
Yeah, you're still my MGTOW brothers, or that's what i think.
I'm not sure what I believe anymore.
@SH3LLSH0CK I actually agree that historical accuracy does not validate the religion. I didn't realize that was the argument we were making, that if it's historically accurate it must validate the religious concepts.
I'm not saying that history should be discredited. I'm just saying that it should be looked at carefully.
@felldie1496 Then we agree on that, too.
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Yeah, Jesus could have lived 2000 years ago, he could have existed.
But if he did or did not do the things that the bible says, is what i'm skeptical at.