There is no correlation.

We can prove physics because if we make experiments about an specific theory, that theory predicts what the experiment has done. This has nothing to do with history.

I would argue that jesus died on a stake..

Omg im gonna say it

We can only do so much to prove the existence of Jesus and to my understand most people who have looked into this admit that there was a dude named Jesus and that a lot of the bible can be correlated to reality. Were not talking the miracles here

@Psychedelic Corpse Fucker Considering what the Romans called "crucifixion" covered everything from staking people to tying them to tree branches to die, it's really tough to say.

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you put da ball in da hoop?

@Five, Seven, and Two I agree, bud.

That's why science is backed by mathematics, not by a random dude telling that's true.

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Jesus stood against the jewish conformity, They asked the romans to step in and kill the "heretic"

The tism is getting real

So

I uh put tha uh ball in da hoop

I mean, we're just having a friendly debate.

I put tha ball in da uh hoop

@felldie1496 If "a random dude telling that's true" is an unacceptable criteria for you, you're going to be really sad to hear about most of history.

They didnt like the whole, "saved thru grace, not your actions" concept.

Don't see how all this discussion about the historically accuracy of those represented in religious texts has much to do with the validity of the religion. I would be more concerned about the parts of religion that are blatantly misleading and destructive, such as belief in an afterlife.

Yeah, you're still my MGTOW brothers, or that's what i think.

I'm not sure what I believe anymore.

@SH3LLSH0CK I actually agree that historical accuracy does not validate the religion. I didn't realize that was the argument we were making, that if it's historically accurate it must validate the religious concepts.

I'm not saying that history should be discredited. I'm just saying that it should be looked at carefully.

@felldie1496 Then we agree on that, too.

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Yeah, Jesus could have lived 2000 years ago, he could have existed.

But if he did or did not do the things that the bible says, is what i'm skeptical at.

Look at the religions actions. people point ask the crusades to discredit christianity which is retarded. Look at what it created in the west and you have your answer.

Sorry for starting this

Believe whatever you want, @Undertow I don't think it'll help much in the afterlife (if you think one exists) anyway.

Idc

I put the ball in the hoop

@felldie1496 Have I, at all, made any argument that because evidence exists that he was real means he performed a bunch of miracles?

In the end, it doesn't matter.

If i die and he judges me, then i'll go and mix lava with my ass in hell.

Well, I don't pretend to know whether one exists or not.

I put the uhh... ball in the... basketball uhh **hoop**

@Five, Seven, and Two No, i'm just sayin'

Da hoop

Yes please change the subject

HOOPS

wtf is this hoops shit lol

At the same time, there is nothing new under the sun. Every aspect of religion/philosophy has been beaten like a dead horse, and at some point you just have to see what values and actions lead to a constructive system of mortal life a.k.a maximizing individual freedom.