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If Flavius Josephus wasn't 100% true, what makes you think the other sources are?

We can't take responsibility for dumb PUA shit

It's all i'm saying.

My position is simply that masculinity is about individuality and self-reliance, and conforming unquestioningly to to a religion is unhealthy for the male mind.

@Undertow And as long as it's not illegal.

Right.

also.. fomer PUAs are the worst

But that's my way <:FuckUSmug:480186125785366528>

@SH3LLSH0CK Men also do well in situations where they work as a team for a higher power

I do, however want to avoid being in a relationship with certain types of women, for obvious reasons.

think wartime

@SH3LLSH0CK, If believing in religion is part of self actualization, you are still a MGTOW

the bonds of brotherhood are forged strong among men who come together under a righteous cause for something larger then themsevles

I've read PUA books, and let me tell you that they have a few things in common with MGTOW.

@felldie1496 If one historian isn't 100% accurate, no sources can be accurate?

Man, physics isn't real.

People were wrong about physics *a lot* through history, so I guess the whole field is a wash.

neither is Maths, right?

@Five, Seven, and Two Pretty sure that's not what he meant.

Physics isn't real? Lol

There is probably more evidence to suggest that Jesus is real than dark energy lol

@Psychedelic Corpse Fucker Dude said if one historian was wrong, he has grounds to reject the others.

@frugalcasper Men work together to achieve a goal to improve their mortal circumstances, not to please a superior being.

Brb, just going to float to the liquor store.

Okay, let's assume that Jesus existed.

There is no proof about his "miracles", and if he died in the crucifixion. It could be some random dude named Jesus that other dudes took to make a magical history.

By that logic, I can disregard gravity's effect on time because Galileo came up with some nonsense about what happens to planets observed through the sun's gravitational field.

@SH3LLSH0CK What i mean is that faith does allow men to bond with others. Our minds can work really well we we are united under a common goal. That goal can be faith. I'm not saying it can't be something else

@felldie1496 Never said a word about his miracles, but there was a dude named Jesus who died under crucifixion and kicked off a religious firestorm in the eastern Roman Empire that scared the fuck out of the local politicians.

There is no correlation.

We can prove physics because if we make experiments about an specific theory, that theory predicts what the experiment has done. This has nothing to do with history.

I would argue that jesus died on a stake..

Omg im gonna say it

We can only do so much to prove the existence of Jesus and to my understand most people who have looked into this admit that there was a dude named Jesus and that a lot of the bible can be correlated to reality. Were not talking the miracles here

@Psychedelic Corpse Fucker Considering what the Romans called "crucifixion" covered everything from staking people to tying them to tree branches to die, it's really tough to say.

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you put da ball in da hoop?

@Five, Seven, and Two I agree, bud.

That's why science is backed by mathematics, not by a random dude telling that's true.

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Jesus stood against the jewish conformity, They asked the romans to step in and kill the "heretic"

The tism is getting real