soft patriarchy won't work.... gives rise to tradcons which restarts the cycle

the romans tried it... only slowed it down a bit....

I was just trying to point out...no matter what is put forth it will inevitably be rejected because no one actually wants a soluton because they don't see a problem

the romans only exceeded the general ten generation cycle rule bcuz they allowed heads of households to mete out capital punishment until 500yrs b4 they fell... it was all downhill for them after that...

thats a hard patriarchy😉

the solution is actually simple but prolly too late for this cycle... take women out of the gatekeeper role for reproduction and don't allow men to create extreme statism... not an easy nut to crack

then u don't need women for reproduction and u don't have the state to enforce extreme gynocentrism....

till then u will have the cycle....

why do i feel like tyrell talkin to roy n blade runner?....lol

XD

when the romans began taking away men's power they went to a soft patriarchy n then devolved into traditional conservatives which was the opening gynocentrism needed to go extreme... game over...

intresting

the amazing thing is how long the romans lasted simply by maintaining a hard patriarchy...

Regimented monogamy was a big part.

i was a cultural anthropologist who studied cultural development and psycologies for 50yrs... m retired now but still like to keep up with it all... why m here actually😉

knowledge is power

Would you consider obligatory marriage part of “hard patriarchy”, zi?

but w/out understanding knowledge is next to useless....

true

yes it is...572

for the women

And for the men? A Roman male citizen of marriageable age really only had the illusion of choice when it came to getting hitched.

extreme statism... dominance... is not a predicate of stability.... marriage and reproduction... therefore hypergamey... is

this is why women cannot choose for marriage but men can choose for celibacy....

True, but men choosing celibacy/bachelorhood locked a lot of legal doors for them — including your father maintaining life and death decisioning over you.

Constantine understood this when he embraced the 'monastics' of his day but it was too late....

monastics of all types reject gynocentrism... but r not always celibate... what is needed r non celibate monastics...

Then is incentive above and beyond what a celibate, monastic life offers necessary to make sure men go along with the obligatory marriage for women?

the monastics of this cycle include preppers, pua, mra, mrm, n mgtow among others...

I am writinga culture where marriage is pretty much mandatory... unless one is confessed gay, thus inflating the numbers of supposed gays (legit gays plus the leave me alone types)

a monastic is simply someone or some group that rejects gynocentrism and its systems

i feel like i lack tons or reading

these people understand that homosexuality is innate so there should be no penalization to something one has no control over

civilizations run n cycles like season... the fall cycle always has a monastic phase just b4 the end... we r already n that phase and no civ has ever survived more than a few generations after the inception of that phase...

we just want the tech to gte out of this styupid cycle we cannot afford to rebuild, the oil and coal are mostly gone

shit.

the spring is when monastics who survived the winter start a new civ..... it is a time of growth and exploration... summer is a long asset building season where the assests for gynocentrism r created n begin to b distributed... fall is the decline where everything breaks down due to gynocentrism and at the close of it a monastic phase ensues where those who reject gynocentrism save what they can of the old civ and create survival strategies for the winter.... winter is the fall and aftermath of the fall

firstworlders are in for a rude awakening they have become complacent

You say that like the collapse of the first world won’t cause untold death in the second and third.

@ziyauren 1. Hello again, it's been a while.
2. Survival strategies I'm guessing being knowing and being able to hunt, trap, cook animals, build shelters, purify water, make clothing?

the fall of a civ is always accompanied by a 30-70% drop n population...mostly men and boys