Message from @ziyauren
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they litterly hold men back
weak and ignorant men will say we hate women
we dont
we see them for what they are
civilizations always fall due to gynocentrism/statism.... no women would solve the the fermi paradox at least
and what they are isn't the least likable
the conflict between gynocentrism and statism is a direct reflection of the reproductive instincts.... gynocentrism is extreme hypergamy... statism is extreme dominance... one or both of these has to b solved to stop the civilizational rise n fall cycle....
could replace women
with tech
and in the meantime instill a soft patriarchy through religion or war or gender segregation....now but what about the flurry of objections to every fookin solution or temporary fix ever put forth
soft patriarchy won't work.... gives rise to tradcons which restarts the cycle
the romans tried it... only slowed it down a bit....
I was just trying to point out...no matter what is put forth it will inevitably be rejected because no one actually wants a soluton because they don't see a problem
the romans only exceeded the general ten generation cycle rule bcuz they allowed heads of households to mete out capital punishment until 500yrs b4 they fell... it was all downhill for them after that...
thats a hard patriarchy😉
the solution is actually simple but prolly too late for this cycle... take women out of the gatekeeper role for reproduction and don't allow men to create extreme statism... not an easy nut to crack
then u don't need women for reproduction and u don't have the state to enforce extreme gynocentrism....
till then u will have the cycle....
why do i feel like tyrell talkin to roy n blade runner?....lol
XD
when the romans began taking away men's power they went to a soft patriarchy n then devolved into traditional conservatives which was the opening gynocentrism needed to go extreme... game over...
intresting
the amazing thing is how long the romans lasted simply by maintaining a hard patriarchy...
Regimented monogamy was a big part.
i was a cultural anthropologist who studied cultural development and psycologies for 50yrs... m retired now but still like to keep up with it all... why m here actually😉
knowledge is power
Would you consider obligatory marriage part of “hard patriarchy”, zi?
but w/out understanding knowledge is next to useless....
true
yes it is...572
for the women
And for the men? A Roman male citizen of marriageable age really only had the illusion of choice when it came to getting hitched.
extreme statism... dominance... is not a predicate of stability.... marriage and reproduction... therefore hypergamey... is
this is why women cannot choose for marriage but men can choose for celibacy....
True, but men choosing celibacy/bachelorhood locked a lot of legal doors for them — including your father maintaining life and death decisioning over you.
Constantine understood this when he embraced the 'monastics' of his day but it was too late....
monastics of all types reject gynocentrism... but r not always celibate... what is needed r non celibate monastics...
Then is incentive above and beyond what a celibate, monastic life offers necessary to make sure men go along with the obligatory marriage for women?
the monastics of this cycle include preppers, pua, mra, mrm, n mgtow among others...
I am writinga culture where marriage is pretty much mandatory... unless one is confessed gay, thus inflating the numbers of supposed gays (legit gays plus the leave me alone types)
a monastic is simply someone or some group that rejects gynocentrism and its systems