How to get that far in debt without wife and kids?

@MufflePuff especially when karen takes the kids

Lmao

What made you all discover the RP/MGTOW? What made you choose MGTOW over PUA or this "Red Man" stuff?

You first.

@secrite I started out trying to get laid. Followed TRP. Lifted, got attractive, tried pickup, found out women are all fucking retarded, became MGTOW and kept improving and earning $$

pua is a bunch of stuff that doesnt work, and the reward is women. which is effectively a cost. because you have to take care of her. so your doing all this work for the great reward of being a servant

Tom Leykis unintentionally introduced me to MGTOW. Then Sandman.

so i went monk

@MufflePuff Yes!

@shadowlessnexus Correct

@MufflePuff Tom Leykis is the original MGTOW. He just hates the label.

Wow you guys are all spot on.

Tom is from a different time, but he is a treasure.

I was raised by a single mother until she died when I was 10, then my aunt raised me with her terrible fucking children (3 girls).

yea tom is sorta like a mgtow guy who does some pua stuff but hes really more living the mgtow lifestyle

I found the red pill concept after just trying to search out if women had been figured out at all by 2018.

Is your name actually Cindereller?

I wanted to see if my experiences were unique or common.

Sorry.

Tom Leykis actually introduced me as well.

***doxxed***

my name is jibral jihid van bismelker

The problem with people like TFM and Tom Leykis is that they seem like huge dicks. But once you dig deeper you realize they're completely right and justified for their bitterness.

That's why I prefered HHH and ended up here

Tom preaches the golden days method. Unfortunately that is no longer de wae.

Yeah, pity about that.

They have mastered the zero fucks given mentality is all

Honestly we need more assholes like Tom and TFM.

Indeed

we need more men to see da wae

What's the golden days method @MufflePuff

wots up incels

Have you listened to any of Cole Robinson? He's the snake diet guy, but he has this one beautiful video where he says feminism is the cause of fatness.

I know this is stupid but how do you switch from the desire to serve women and be a provider to serving yourself? I feel passionate about programming still and actually put in 2 hours extra today to build out a monitoring module but I also feel less thrilled about it deep down.

just lookin at new trucks of peace

@Roko PUA. Go to college, get a good career.

@Xychotic Yes! I follow Cole.

@secrite Find new things to love.

You ever travel?

serve thy self

Build shit?