Message from @Baron Doom

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2019-03-09 11:12:58 UTC  

it would take an event on the level of the germans in stalingrad to get the officers to break that particualr rule, they are trained for the worst

2019-03-09 11:13:38 UTC  

and they are people, human at the end of the day, blatant murder is not something a person would usually do

2019-03-09 11:13:57 UTC  

What about ISIS setting people on fire in cages?

2019-03-09 11:14:19 UTC  

Possibly under orders

2019-03-09 11:14:27 UTC  

the circumstances would have to be quite extreme. ISIS aren't civilians they are the enemy

2019-03-09 11:15:00 UTC  

ISIS aren't a military force they are a radical terrorist group with delusions

2019-03-09 11:15:09 UTC  

Even the military when they take off their uniforms are civilians

2019-03-09 11:15:55 UTC  

no they are not, once someone joins the military they are never considered a civilian again, most people don't know that

2019-03-09 11:16:09 UTC  

legally speaking

2019-03-09 11:16:13 UTC  

The same could be said about the founding fathers of the US. Seen from the British of course

2019-03-09 11:16:41 UTC  

the training they recieve instantly reclassifies them for life

2019-03-09 11:17:14 UTC  

Ok, I didn't know that, thanks for the info

2019-03-09 11:17:36 UTC  

if a soldier gets into a fight out of uniform it is not considered assult, it is considered assult with a deadly weapon

2019-03-09 11:17:53 UTC  

I am from a country with mandatory military service by the way

2019-03-09 11:17:58 UTC  

simply due to their training and knowledge

2019-03-09 11:18:04 UTC  

Sup cunts

2019-03-09 11:18:15 UTC  

your laws might be a bit different due to that

2019-03-09 11:18:19 UTC  

its not the norm

2019-03-09 11:18:36 UTC  

I don't know, I never joined

2019-03-09 11:19:01 UTC  

in or out of uniform a soldier has many more rules governing their life than the average civilian

2019-03-09 11:19:16 UTC  

gangs are the same, once you are in you are in for life

2019-03-09 11:19:43 UTC  

yes but this is different its more a legal matter

2019-03-09 11:20:02 UTC  
2019-03-09 11:20:28 UTC  

in gangs it is more a life or death matter mate, so yes you can say ir is different

2019-03-09 11:20:36 UTC  

it*

2019-03-09 11:21:14 UTC  

these rules are more to preserve the public image of the military and its impartiality to the politics of the wider nation

2019-03-09 11:21:36 UTC  

they simply are to take orders from the ruling government of the day

2019-03-09 11:21:57 UTC  

but not show dissent to the ruling government either

2019-03-09 11:22:20 UTC  

barring again unlawful orders

2019-03-09 11:22:41 UTC  

Which is also a major difference to gangs, no one give them orders

2019-03-09 11:23:25 UTC  

being any of the national laws, ROEs, or other legally binding laws in place ( geneva conventions)

2019-03-09 11:23:29 UTC  

anybody here?

2019-03-09 11:23:29 UTC  

indeed

2019-03-09 11:23:33 UTC  

yo

2019-03-09 11:23:50 UTC  

ah I see

2019-03-09 11:23:55 UTC  

the military is simply to obey, and as i said they are a tool

2019-03-09 11:24:24 UTC  

sorry @Germanmgtow going into a debate about how the military is not a gang

2019-03-09 11:24:25 UTC  

I know, which is also a major difference to gangs.

2019-03-09 11:25:29 UTC  

or fundamental as you put it

2019-03-09 11:25:35 UTC  

its very much centered in the ideas of service to others, the country, and those around them, and of course sacrifice and honour

2019-03-09 11:26:18 UTC  

which is what gang deep down is too, except for country