Even the military when they take off their uniforms are civilians

no they are not, once someone joins the military they are never considered a civilian again, most people don't know that

legally speaking

The same could be said about the founding fathers of the US. Seen from the British of course

the training they recieve instantly reclassifies them for life

Ok, I didn't know that, thanks for the info

if a soldier gets into a fight out of uniform it is not considered assult, it is considered assult with a deadly weapon

I am from a country with mandatory military service by the way

simply due to their training and knowledge

Sup cunts

your laws might be a bit different due to that

its not the norm

I don't know, I never joined

in or out of uniform a soldier has many more rules governing their life than the average civilian

gangs are the same, once you are in you are in for life

yes but this is different its more a legal matter

sup @bananaphone

in gangs it is more a life or death matter mate, so yes you can say ir is different

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these rules are more to preserve the public image of the military and its impartiality to the politics of the wider nation

they simply are to take orders from the ruling government of the day

but not show dissent to the ruling government either

barring again unlawful orders

Which is also a major difference to gangs, no one give them orders

being any of the national laws, ROEs, or other legally binding laws in place ( geneva conventions)

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ah I see

the military is simply to obey, and as i said they are a tool

sorry @Germanmgtow going into a debate about how the military is not a gang

I know, which is also a major difference to gangs.

or fundamental as you put it

its very much centered in the ideas of service to others, the country, and those around them, and of course sacrifice and honour

which is what gang deep down is too, except for country

its fundamental because these traits, values and methods of operation are at the core of how the military functions and is formed

There are traits and values in gangland too mate

combined with its purpose it is completely different

not to the same extent or application

Since gangs don't take orders from corrupt officials?

its something you have to experience to understand