more like political favors because someone was bribed, threatened or was doing a favor and bending or ignoring the rules

Criminal does not have to be violent by the way

the Iraqi military in the 90's is a textbook case of it so i used it as an example

It had more to do with the nation being a dictatorship and the politics that brought to the Iraqi military

I know, and point were taken. Where that criminal though? Being order to do something illegal is no excuse by the way

its extremely complex

it was less orders with the iraqis and more a network of bribes and threats with the constant threat of being "replaced" with a bullet to the head

All of your points above are criminal

Except for the statement of complex

and as for the bit about orders, it can be a defence in some cases, a soldier is supposed to obey his orders to his death if need be, provided they are lawful, for example an officer in say some unnamed western military could order the killing of civilians, the soldiers under his command would not be obligated to follow it as it is unlawful and could have said officer removed, assuming it is a western military, this is one of the uniform standards and laws that they abide by

other militaries on some other countries dont have these standards and to disobey such an order would be considered insubordination in these forces

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my "western military" distinction was for this reason

That is true, but how long does it takes for that to be thrown out under distress

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it would take an event on the level of the germans in stalingrad to get the officers to break that particualr rule, they are trained for the worst

and they are people, human at the end of the day, blatant murder is not something a person would usually do

What about ISIS setting people on fire in cages?

Possibly under orders

the circumstances would have to be quite extreme. ISIS aren't civilians they are the enemy

ISIS aren't a military force they are a radical terrorist group with delusions

Even the military when they take off their uniforms are civilians

no they are not, once someone joins the military they are never considered a civilian again, most people don't know that

legally speaking

The same could be said about the founding fathers of the US. Seen from the British of course

the training they recieve instantly reclassifies them for life

Ok, I didn't know that, thanks for the info

if a soldier gets into a fight out of uniform it is not considered assult, it is considered assult with a deadly weapon

I am from a country with mandatory military service by the way

simply due to their training and knowledge

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your laws might be a bit different due to that

its not the norm

I don't know, I never joined

in or out of uniform a soldier has many more rules governing their life than the average civilian

gangs are the same, once you are in you are in for life

yes but this is different its more a legal matter

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in gangs it is more a life or death matter mate, so yes you can say ir is different

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these rules are more to preserve the public image of the military and its impartiality to the politics of the wider nation