Message from @conker

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2019-03-09 23:02:51 UTC  

That was great.

2019-03-09 23:03:03 UTC  

Hungary is an example we should follow

2019-03-09 23:03:05 UTC  

individualism is good and all

2019-03-09 23:03:13 UTC  

But individualism doesn't make nations

2019-03-09 23:03:20 UTC  

Individualism is great. For #Muricans!

2019-03-09 23:03:36 UTC  

Individualism caused the shit we have in europe in the first place

2019-03-09 23:03:43 UTC  

All the fighting against the collectivism

2019-03-09 23:03:45 UTC  

As long as you are #murican first, then you can be as individual as you like.

2019-03-09 23:03:49 UTC  

Sry to break it you, but it's not that easy with Hungary 😅

2019-03-09 23:03:59 UTC  

I figured 😃 How so though?

2019-03-09 23:04:09 UTC  

First off, you have to be in Hungary.

2019-03-09 23:04:15 UTC  

So, that sucks.

2019-03-09 23:04:26 UTC  

Don't the tax breaks only apply to the woman.. and not her husband?

2019-03-09 23:04:29 UTC  

1. Tfm made an analysis video, why this policy of orban is pure bs

2019-03-09 23:04:41 UTC  

@Kragt That's correct, but it improves the birth rate

2019-03-09 23:04:45 UTC  

@Kragt exatly

2019-03-09 23:04:57 UTC  

Oh, I don't think I watched the video, but it seems to work

2019-03-09 23:05:00 UTC  

Well how long has it been implemented? When did the birth rate increase?

2019-03-09 23:05:13 UTC  

I think within a decade or so

2019-03-09 23:05:15 UTC  

We can establish a correlation here to work off of.

2019-03-09 23:05:35 UTC  

and no ... it actually creates the mad incentive for the woman becoming the breadwinner if you think about that

2019-03-09 23:05:38 UTC  

Also 1.5 is still below replacement. >_> So they are just dying slower.

2019-03-09 23:05:39 UTC  

The policy that Orban created essentially literally puts women in the centre of the society

2019-03-09 23:06:34 UTC  

*aaaand * there was this other policy with giving people loans, and if they have more than x children, they dont need to pay them back
-> as usual, that's an incentive for the idiots to breed
yaay

2019-03-09 23:06:47 UTC  

there was this one policy in croatia

2019-03-09 23:07:19 UTC  

where each mother that gave birth would get around 150 Euros at the birth of the child

2019-03-09 23:07:39 UTC  

but you had to go through a painfully long proccess of applying for it and it failed

2019-03-09 23:07:41 UTC  

big time

2019-03-09 23:07:43 UTC  

made no difference

2019-03-09 23:07:57 UTC  

and I met a guy on MB server ... who was originally from hungary ... lived there 20y+ and then moved to western europe

his opinion was: hungary is shit
(except for the main big cities)

maybe it's ok for retirement as it is quite cheap

2019-03-09 23:08:20 UTC  

Same thing could imply for Croatia

2019-03-09 23:08:26 UTC  

The only decent city is the capital

2019-03-09 23:08:31 UTC  

Croatia is centralized af

2019-03-09 23:09:00 UTC  

yeah, maybe in croatia 150€ is "big" money for "local" standards, but that's bs, you can't anywhere on earth raise a child for 150€ ...

2019-03-09 23:09:16 UTC  

it's not a large amount

2019-03-09 23:09:24 UTC  

I mean it is, but not for raising a kid

2019-03-09 23:09:33 UTC  

same story as Uruguay

2019-03-09 23:09:49 UTC  

Uruguay is Montevideo and its backyard

2019-03-09 23:10:10 UTC  

Punta del este is the beach chair

2019-03-09 23:10:19 UTC  

this loan the people in hungary will gladly get these loans ... and not pay them back ....
and that loan even sounded like you could support a child for some time/ a few years basically ...

2019-03-09 23:10:46 UTC  

but who the fuck has to pay for that, the tax payers ofc ...
that's so retarded and basically dysgenics again