Message from @JDB

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2019-03-12 20:37:57 UTC  

paid per month

2019-03-12 20:38:00 UTC  

ah, I hate those jobs.

2019-03-12 20:38:17 UTC  

i don't mind it - he just doesn't allow any headphones on and it's a phone in company

2019-03-12 20:38:24 UTC  

That's the way they milk you for more.

2019-03-12 20:38:37 UTC  

good experience moving forward

2019-03-12 20:38:47 UTC  

Well bro, there's plenty money to be made in programming...

2019-03-12 20:38:54 UTC  

yep - he tries getting me to stay an hour longer

2019-03-12 20:39:08 UTC  

Is there something youre not telling us

2019-03-12 20:39:09 UTC  

i'm leaving in a couple weeks so either way i'm getting the money i need

2019-03-12 20:39:17 UTC  

How can a boss be so agaisnt you

2019-03-12 20:39:30 UTC  

@Revel yeah, there's details missing but c'est la vie.

2019-03-12 20:39:43 UTC  

he's not against me - because i have python and js on my cv he thinks ican do everything in 10% of the time

2019-03-12 20:39:53 UTC  

and because i tell him 'i don't know how to do that'

2019-03-12 20:40:01 UTC  

he has become more and more bitter

2019-03-12 20:40:06 UTC  

Right, but part of the art of being a programmer is managing expectations.

2019-03-12 20:40:28 UTC  

yeah - when i started i was too excited so i wanted to do everything - i thought he was a tech guy

2019-03-12 20:40:33 UTC  

Well, first, as a programmer, you're never ever allowed to say "I don't know how to do that."

2019-03-12 20:40:47 UTC  

he views programming as the dark arts - so if you know python, you know everything about everything with a plug

2019-03-12 20:41:00 UTC  

Yeah, but there's google.

2019-03-12 20:41:17 UTC  

yeah - but he wanted me to make a full scale CMS within 3 days

2019-03-12 20:41:24 UTC  

i had to tell him no

2019-03-12 20:41:25 UTC  

I've been a professional programmer for 16 years, 50% of my work is just using google for people too lazy.

2019-03-12 20:41:30 UTC  

And reading documentation...

2019-03-12 20:41:42 UTC  

Bosses dont like hearing "idk how to do that" even if its the truth

2019-03-12 20:41:44 UTC  

Right, define "fullscale" CMS?

2019-03-12 20:41:45 UTC  

i am very new to programming, sub 5 months

2019-03-12 20:42:25 UTC  

he wanted me to make a site that could manage all of our db's records

2019-03-12 20:42:28 UTC  

K, well as a programmer, you have to learn programming has very little to do with code, and a lot more to do with "finding out what the customer REALLY wants."

2019-03-12 20:42:40 UTC  

yeah true - but i couldn't do it in 3 days

2019-03-12 20:42:42 UTC  

When youre on the field you gotta play the game a certain way to get ahead

2019-03-12 20:42:44 UTC  

i needed time to learn

2019-03-12 20:42:49 UTC  

true revel

2019-03-12 20:42:52 UTC  

Right, but you could do somethin gin 3 weeks?

2019-03-12 20:42:58 UTC  

now you're just haggling over time.

2019-03-12 20:43:27 UTC  

Building a CMS is dead simple.

2019-03-12 20:43:37 UTC  

i'm not a veteran like you man - i'm new - i would need time alone to learn

2019-03-12 20:43:45 UTC  

And remember this: Bosses use psychological warfare on their subordinates

2019-03-12 20:43:56 UTC  

yeah now i can do it - but at the time i had no xp in web dev

2019-03-12 20:44:08 UTC  

Look man.

2019-03-12 20:44:37 UTC  

I'm not attacking you or anything, it's just typing, so it's hard to communicate like with tone and stuff.

2019-03-12 20:44:44 UTC  

I'm just trying to share some wisdom.