Message from @Dinosorcerer
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I went beyond simple google searches to try and verify the SPJ scenario. It's not my problem if you're comfortable believing what someone tells you without asking for evidence first.
I can copy and paste text into pastebin too.
I stick to the facts
And the text in the padtebin merely confirrms that a skype call happened. What follows the supposed text of the dm is the repeated assertion for which there is still no evidence. You don't stick to facts, you stick to heresay
Is an archive link, you can't "copy and paste" in that link
You can copy and paste text into pastebin though
We know the pastebin is the way it was when it was made, but we don't know if the text in it is accurate
At least not to the dm exchange, which is itself entirely innocuous
Do I have to kidnap Sargon and drag him into your house for you to believe me?
You have to give me something better than assertions
I gave you evidence
All you gave me were Qu Qu's assertions
In many forms, yes, but just his assertions
And the archive link which you dissmis BC well MaYbe
Why is he the only person out of that group that's said anything about this?
I don't understand why the Candid thing isn't enough.
It's bad enough on its own
I literally gave you 3 names before
Qu Qu's friends, only one of whom was in the skype call according to the pastebin above
This video on the 20th of August makes no mention whatsoever of the dms, or tge Skype call. Both of which were supposed to have happened only 2 weeks before.
I don't dude, maybe BC info Is a bit too slow? Especially when is a priv Skype call
The guy who made the video, qu qu, was in the call. No mention
He knew about it as soon as it happened, but neither distanced himself from the event nor exposed the supposed wrongdoings for two months.
Honestly dude, I'm going to kidnap Sargon bc I could bring a thousand links and you would tell me "WeLl It cOUlD bE CoPy & pAsTe" coming from as you said a guy who was in the call and Is telling you right now what hapened but bc you didn't listen anything about it then it comes into question what he has to say.
it is allegations. there's a reason why eye witness testimony is considered one of the least reliable forms of evidence. it's a good thing then that you don't have to go to the thing we might not know happened to make your case. you can point directly to the Candid stuff. so you can't prove that Sargon wasn't trustworthy about his maneuvering in 2015. who cares? you can prove that he was patently untrustworthy with Candid. I am trying to help your case against Sargon here.
when you are accusing somebody of being untrustworthy, it doesn't behoove you to present heresay as evidence in an untrustworthy manner. I'm just presenting to you any of the arguments that someone who is interested in defending Sargon would give you. the SPJ stuff is only enough in my opinion to convince someone who already doesn't like him. the Candid stuff however, irrefutable.
I gave you evidence and you dissmiss it (archive link) I gave you testimony (the video) fuck off with "make my case"
the archive link of the pastebin only gives a transcript of the DM exchange (at no point during that exchange does the subject of Shadow of Mordor come up) after which we get the same old assertion from Qu Qu. it is not in and of itself any more compelling evidence than his assertion he made during the live stream. could it have happened? sure. but absent any verifiable information on it or just going of of the same assertions from Qu Qu and his posse (who could have any number of ulterior motives), I see no reason to treat it as a point of fact and neither will any fan of Sargon's. I'm just not convinced that Qu Qu and his friend would have been the only ones to speak out and that they would have waited as long as they did while pretending in the intervening 2 months that everything with SPJ was fine. you do not have to, nor should you, use the SPJ story to make your case that Sargon is untrustworthy. it will be dismissed not only by his supporters, but even a few people who don't care one way or the other. it's nowhere near as strong as the Candid stuff.
the problem with the SPJ thing is that the only way to verify it would be to have audio of the Skype call. I realize that's probably impossible, but it's the only thing that changes it from an interesting theory into reality.
You can always Google search it
you can't find the audio through google, and the only guy who seems to be talking about it is Qu Qu. the only thing you can find through google is his accusations, not any proof. if you don't think i tried, then you're wrong
Who is Qanon?
Modernity was a mistake.
Dose any channel on YouTube still do bloodsports?
I thought Tonka was still doing it
Who is Qanon?
I am
What did you do that everyone calls you a Boomer?
Q anon is just trump shit posting on chan