Message from @TheWesternWan
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lol
Neuroscience student here.
Sad.
As bad as it is, do we really want the kind of people who'd get abortion raising children
But why
Why not incentivise not having kids in the first place
I don't care if it's all the father's DNA by some kind of magic. My answer would be the same, you have the right to determine who uses your organs.
Or put a limit on kids
Something reasonable though not china's fucking bad shit
Like 4.
So you agree?
constantine fair point however even traditionalists are mixed on abortion
The average family is 1-3 kids
4th is pushing
It's reasonable but could curb it slightly
Call them babies instead of foetuses, the answer is the same. No matter how innocent someone is, they do not have the right to the use of someone else's organs.
But it should be as many as someone can afford.
That is such a ridiculous argument.
So neither the mother has that right then.
Which does not square with other things you have said.
It squares just fine, having cum left in you is not continual use of someone else's organs.
Abortion is a bloody natural selection
The reason the organs happened was from the stimulus from the father
i do agree with the notion that the father should have a say because the baby has half of his dna however the cells multiply and the baby develops with the use of the mothers body so thats why it would ultimately be logical for her to have a say
The best natural selection would be if another bubonic happened.
No really.
But I will say no more on this. It's too controversial
Abortion is artificial not natural selection fwiw
define natural and artificial
It's removing your genes from the gene pool
But I'm done commenting on this. This is one of the few issues I dislike talking about.
The technical distinction between babies and foetuses is used by abortion advocates to pretend the right they are in favour of doesn't kill. I make no such pretension, the right results in the killing of the foetus, and there is no hard moral distinction whatever between a foetus and a baby.
The right for your organs to not be used by others against your will trumps that in my opinion.
I am perfectly willing for all that death to occur in order for that right to be preserved.
It was nice talking to people with different views though. I like it.
@Whiskey-Vargas I do not hear many other advocates of reproductive rights holding this position though. Instead they merely scream "misogynist" when people disagree with them. I disagree with the curtailing of freedom to save young lives, but being against that freedom does not mean you hate women.
And these same people foolishly want to curtail the 1st and 2nd ammendments, which are magnitudes more important.
They want the right for a woman who makes the choice to terminate her pregnancy to not be judged for it, which is utter nonsense.
They also do not seem to realise that if you go after liberties that other people care about, that they don't much care about, those other people will go after theirs in turn, sometimes purely out of spite.
The abortion debate is a good example of this.