Message from @Grumplebee

Discord ID: 469717726982701066


2018-07-20 03:58:53 UTC  

Ready for my doomsday prophecy for how the ruinous powers will eventually destory anime and manga?

2018-07-20 03:59:25 UTC  

drop it sonnn

2018-07-20 03:59:37 UTC  

Ok this is gonna be on the long side.

2018-07-20 03:59:58 UTC  

Let's start with American superhero comics. We'll get to the anime eventually.

2018-07-20 04:01:35 UTC  

Superman was created in 1938. While hollywood had a relationship with the character since the beginning, it took them until 1976 to really, really nail it hard.

2018-07-20 04:01:53 UTC  

ok super man got it

2018-07-20 04:02:07 UTC  

Sorry 1978. That's forty years.

2018-07-20 04:02:32 UTC  

After that they tried to get it to work again, but didn't really succeed until 1989's Batman movie

2018-07-20 04:03:02 UTC  

That's another eleven years.

2018-07-20 04:03:44 UTC  

After that they *still* had a ton of trouble translating comics to film. Which doesn't make much sense. You could Literally use a comic book as a storyboard.

2018-07-20 04:03:55 UTC  

and at least part of a script.

2018-07-20 04:04:03 UTC  

true

2018-07-20 04:04:56 UTC  

But they kept plugging away trying to crack that nut. there were some successes (Blade, Spider-Man) but Marvel themselves eventually nailed it so Hard with Iron Man that Disney bought them.

2018-07-20 04:05:04 UTC  

Since then, marvel at least has been cranking it out.

2018-07-20 04:06:08 UTC  

So it took from 1938 to 2008 to really perfect superhero movies. Now it's a major part of the Hollywood landscape. Huge moneymaker.

2018-07-20 04:06:33 UTC  

Now I have to ask you a terrible question. Are you Familiar with Bob Chipman?

2018-07-20 04:06:55 UTC  

yeap

2018-07-20 04:07:56 UTC  

That will save us some time. Watch this (cancer warning) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmXA08jzUfc

2018-07-20 04:09:31 UTC  

Just as an aside let's take a moment to reflect that we live in a world where Bob Chipman Is still alive. but total busicut got butt cancer so bad it turned him into an SJW before it killed him

2018-07-20 04:09:37 UTC  

Darkest freakin' timeline.

2018-07-20 04:10:33 UTC  

But I don't think Bob is wrong about marvel's long term game plan.

2018-07-20 04:11:42 UTC  

which is what

2018-07-20 04:12:26 UTC  

Despite Japanese comics doing gangbusters in their home market and aborad. The folks working marvel probably think print media is drying. So their long term plan is movies.

2018-07-20 04:12:54 UTC  

This is probably brought on by the idea that their *woke* ideas can't be failing on their own merits.

2018-07-20 04:14:26 UTC  

So it's just gotta be the media is dying. So movies are the future. They gotta plan for the futre. In their minds that means they've gotta futureproof it.

2018-07-20 04:15:07 UTC  

That means "diversifying" their stuff so they have a BK Kids club to replace their aging actors.

2018-07-20 04:15:42 UTC  

You can actually see what they would consider a success in how much money Black Panther made.

2018-07-20 04:16:17 UTC  

But here's the thing

2018-07-20 04:16:19 UTC  

jesus that guy was soyyeddd

2018-07-20 04:16:23 UTC  

It can't last forever

2018-07-20 04:17:27 UTC  

Bob is wrong in that the diversity push is not going to make comic book movies last forever. The domestic and international markets will get sick of them at some point.

2018-07-20 04:17:49 UTC  

I expect it will happen not more than a few years after avengers 4

2018-07-20 04:18:35 UTC  

If they're real unlucky it will happen just as they're introducing Characters like Riri Williams and X-23 in their own solo films.

2018-07-20 04:18:44 UTC  

The Chinese didn't like Black Panther much.

2018-07-20 04:18:53 UTC  

That is another problem

2018-07-20 04:20:04 UTC  

Maybe it's just (((hollywood's))) own doing. But a "diverse" character might have a more narrow appeal. Chinese might like x-23 (she's asian in the comics, not hispanic Progressive stack much?)

2018-07-20 04:20:14 UTC  

but they won't got out for black panther.

2018-07-20 04:21:08 UTC  

But thanks to a century of hollywood, EVERYONE is disposed to accepting white actors.

2018-07-20 04:21:09 UTC  

lol i'm glad i have left the nerd plantation forever

2018-07-20 04:21:39 UTC  

i could careless about media of any form and they can go fuck them self

2018-07-20 04:22:13 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392484867188850691/469720666501808128/FCgif.gif