Zeta and Sigma applies to mgtow

or they're related

These are mindsets and sometimes they are fleeting.

Because I know I could of likely smash and dash but it was just my decision of thinking it could be more and wanting to do it right. But I could of easily pump her if I'd just make my mind right then and there which I've done in the past.

They change over time

@Royal Saiyan juice isn't worth the squeeze, my dude, but your path is your path~

I could be alpha in the gym, but i have to play the role of a beta at work taking orders so i can keep my job

@Sigma i don't agree with that

i think you can be awesome at whatever you choose to do

I secretly hate beta because it is used incorrectly, I feel like in our based low level instant gratification society simply being smart enough to avoid certain things all together can come off as beta to more ignorant ppl

even if it's at work

Beta in reality is just a supporter of a given alpha

@°°°
Thanks

Maybe my thinking is flawed

@Sigmano I agree with that definition

I can be great at my job, but there is always someone in a higher position than me

I have to do what I got to do for the company, and take guidance from my boss

I get that, because that woman has a child and well I also have a child...

I can't tell me boss, I'm in charge now

plus the boss may have certain management and leadership skills i don't have yet

I wouldn't make a good boss right now, nor would I want to

I like to live and let live

@Sigma as long as you don't own the company their has to be a level of subsurvience so your right

When it come to leaders and follower I am both, what in trying say is that whatever I set myself to do it comes natural to me.

But I do have a big heart, which was given to me by GOD.

I follow when It's more wise to follow

That's why most women can't resist me

True

I can lead and make decisions if necessary, but I'd rather the group all agree on one thing

@Sigma same here

I'm a critical thinker

if it's a 50-50 split, then we need to figure something out and go from there

I have actually been in leadership roles in more than one job and I handled it well, but I can't say it was for me

It's not easy

Try being in charge of a team of 10 people

that's hard to do

I use to be for 50+.

I managed about 15 ppl in my early 20's and then 10 about 2 years ago

I just don't understand why it's hard.

Communication is a key part of it and making sure everyone is on the same page

I work great alone, group, or following.