i think that was the catalyst, with the abuse on top that got me here

Hmm

@Unknowncrash pump and dump is probably worth it if your sex drive is high and you are confident you can dodge the trap, anyway you'll get bored after a few runs prolly

I'm a bit of a 6.5 or 7

But short

So...

being short can be a deal braker in itself with these vapid women brother

you should be able to land a 3 or 4 at least for the night.

I'm not sure if it's worth the experience @sigma

pump and dumb pay for play whores

dump

if sex is really hard to get then fuck it just do your own thing ignore women but again if they are women who are easy pumps and dumps then do it

Nah, I don't think sex is hard to get

@Unknowncrash I would not nessicarily suggest pump and dump but you should definetly still a tempt to have good interactions with women, if it happens it happens, I don't think it's healthy to close off completely at 17

I'm just saying in general...I don't know what experience your referring to @Unknowncrash

never bareback

^^

I have the "fuck you all" attitude

Experience means having sex with real women

@Unknowncrash yeah i agree with reaper. Not good to socially isolate at all but especially at your age.

@Unknowncrash my experience with pump and dump isn't large at all, but i quickly noticed : a well done fap (no porn, 100% imagination) is just as good, no feelings for the girl makes it trashy

Dude

have sex with whores and compare it to "real women", much better results from this.

I get you guys care

I really do

But

I really never fit in

It's a fucking curse

Like

I don't know

why would you wanted to fit in

I like talking to people. I find discussions entertaining. Talk to me about the gym, nutrition, fighting etc

neither do i, but you can emulate the masses very easily, which will lead you to situations where you can pump and dump.

Iyou guys said its better to mix around?

@Unknowncrash see we have all been 17 and it is natural to feel like that but as you get older you will see fitting in matters less and in different ways

yoou dont have to be the masses, but you can emulate them

Of course I socialise well

to your own detriment mind

I just don't want to hear about what's going on in the news, kardashians, gossip, and I don't like sports either except for maybe ufc

Ive got the chameleon going

People like me