if sex is really hard to get then fuck it just do your own thing ignore women but again if they are women who are easy pumps and dumps then do it

Nah, I don't think sex is hard to get

@Unknowncrash I would not nessicarily suggest pump and dump but you should definetly still a tempt to have good interactions with women, if it happens it happens, I don't think it's healthy to close off completely at 17

I'm just saying in general...I don't know what experience your referring to @Unknowncrash

never bareback

^^

I have the "fuck you all" attitude

Experience means having sex with real women

@Unknowncrash yeah i agree with reaper. Not good to socially isolate at all but especially at your age.

@Unknowncrash my experience with pump and dump isn't large at all, but i quickly noticed : a well done fap (no porn, 100% imagination) is just as good, no feelings for the girl makes it trashy

Dude

have sex with whores and compare it to "real women", much better results from this.

I get you guys care

I really do

But

I really never fit in

It's a fucking curse

Like

I don't know

why would you wanted to fit in

I like talking to people. I find discussions entertaining. Talk to me about the gym, nutrition, fighting etc

neither do i, but you can emulate the masses very easily, which will lead you to situations where you can pump and dump.

Iyou guys said its better to mix around?

@Unknowncrash see we have all been 17 and it is natural to feel like that but as you get older you will see fitting in matters less and in different ways

yoou dont have to be the masses, but you can emulate them

Of course I socialise well

to your own detriment mind

I just don't want to hear about what's going on in the news, kardashians, gossip, and I don't like sports either except for maybe ufc

Ive got the chameleon going

People like me

@Sigman those are often the topic of conversation

^

Well

I don't like them

Exactly

Never liked gossip

@Unknowncrash just sit there and nod

@Sigma 10gr of creatine, 50gr of protein, some dextrose, am i good to go? xD

I'll talk about stuff going on in the news but i don't pay attention to the MSM.

yes

Once people open their mouth, I go blank, or some other shit