it's a known fact women can't raise men but can men raise women?

yes

look at the turnout of girls in single fatherhood homes compared to single mothers

I understand they turn out fantastic.

Assuming dad did his job.

Men are adults

Women are children

You do the math

Can a child raise someone to be an adult?

A child can raise themselves with enough role models even if present parents are largely absent due to work

I largely did that with books.

Though I'm still glad my dad was around.

I literally eating Sugarcane rn

good for you

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children are not very good at figuring out what is good for themselves

You're like, "I want diabetes. But I also want to have to work for it."

That depends on the age of the child and the amount of intellectual input they receive from parental figures, peers and mentors

children are very short term, meaning fully in the now, thinkers. Thinking a few steps ahed is part of maturing. Adults need to guide children and teach them.

That's nonsense.

Just look at the insightful activities of the children as documented in The Lord of the Flies.

Lord of the Flies is a very extreme example

parents keep children from learning things the hard way

I dunno about that

My parent's didn't teach me about electricity.

I learned about that playing with exposed wires.

I don't think that it depends on the age of the child because to me thinking ahead is one of the defining characteristics of adulthood so to the degree that someone can successfully plan ahead can they be considered an adult. In other words while someone who is not legally an adult can have adult traits that does not mean the trait is not adult defining.

@Xychotic proved my point

electric shocks ora slap to the back of the head

@metal_mango pretty sure that was the opposite of proving your point, but okay

doesn't matter families are fucked anyway

muslim families are sticking together

@Xychotic are you trolling? because metal_mango said that parents keep children from learning things the hardway and then you gave an example of learning things the hardway.

I'm clearly indicating that my parents *did not* keep me from learning the hard way.

right so they weren't parenting in that example

as in that is a parents job, does not mean that they always do it.

role of a good parent i meant

Clarification achieved.

ya I understand what the confusion was now.

Well, in defense of my parents, I also had a habit of jumping out of cars and falling off bikes.

If there is a God, he definitely was testing their patience, my resilience, and may very well have wanted me dead.