Message from @Seven Of Swords

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2018-09-06 22:24:29 UTC  

yep, like I said, in denial

2018-09-06 22:24:43 UTC  

Oh, so you know what is in my head better than I do?

2018-09-06 22:25:50 UTC  

And besides, countries have been toppled over and destroyed for the sake of capital as well. Sorry, everyone's shit stinks, not just communism's.

2018-09-06 22:25:55 UTC  

if you read back what we've been talking about on here, it's clearly visible you are advocating for something that is similar to it, but you don't want to use the name.

2018-09-06 22:26:16 UTC  

evidence needed

2018-09-06 22:26:22 UTC  

Really? If its so clear, please explain where I *clearly* advocated for it.

2018-09-06 22:27:41 UTC  

you hate the current system, and you are posing the same questions leftists do, and coming to conclusions leftists do. problem is, your premises are wrong. I clarified a lot of it, if it didn't help, not my fault

2018-09-06 22:27:58 UTC  

gynocentrism is off the table now, we are talking about economy.

2018-09-06 22:28:07 UTC  

>implying that his arguments are flawless

2018-09-06 22:28:14 UTC  

lol

2018-09-06 22:28:28 UTC  

*missing argument error*

2018-09-06 22:28:46 UTC  

>I'm missing an argument

2018-09-06 22:29:07 UTC  

>clearly hasn't been paying attention to the discussion

2018-09-06 22:30:18 UTC  

Whatever dude. Do what thou wilt. Its clear that we never lived on the same planet and that we never will. It was an interesting, discussion none the least.

2018-09-06 22:31:08 UTC  

look, I've debated enough to know when it comes to these childish non-arguments, you clearly have nothing else to say, and this is the point when I quit. I really have other things to do, but I can't say I haven't tried. not everyone will get it, it is what it is

2018-09-06 22:32:00 UTC  

(just make sure you don't become part of antifa)

2018-09-06 22:33:38 UTC  

If we are going to be recommending things that we should or should not do, I would recommend listening to some Zizek.

2018-09-06 22:34:52 UTC  

btw I'm fine with having disagreements, but I'm not fine with having these childish name callings. you should have the right to say whatever you will, and I'm willing to defend it. but you also have to be able to take criticism and accept that you might be wrong

2018-09-06 22:35:30 UTC  

You called me a communist first...

2018-09-06 22:35:38 UTC  

I never said that I was.

2018-09-06 22:35:55 UTC  

Don't cast stones in glass houses, as the saying goes.

2018-09-06 22:36:36 UTC  

then you have communist views all but in name :)

2018-09-06 22:36:59 UTC  

meh

2018-09-06 22:37:25 UTC  

there are many different schools of communist thought on the left.

2018-09-06 22:37:43 UTC  

it doesn't matter what you call it, you can call it the great religion of the beaten dogs, for all I care. the name is not what counts, it's the idea behind it, that wrecked societies throughout time

2018-09-06 22:37:43 UTC  

Not all of them necessarily agree on what communism is, much less who is and who isn't.

2018-09-06 22:38:09 UTC  

OK... is it one idea, or many different ideas?

2018-09-06 22:38:38 UTC  

the generic idea what you've been talking about is, the forced redistribution of wealth

2018-09-06 22:39:14 UTC  

I've never said that I was in favor of the forced redistribution of wealth.

2018-09-06 22:39:32 UTC  

If anything I'm much more radical and crazy.

2018-09-06 22:39:43 UTC  

I want people to be able to live without needing wealth at all.

2018-09-06 22:40:37 UTC  

That is much more freeing than needing a state or dictatorship of the proletariat to redistribute anything.

2018-09-06 22:41:49 UTC  

aha, and who would be producing your at least minimal needs for survival then?

2018-09-06 22:42:02 UTC  

in what sense, exactly?

2018-09-06 22:42:11 UTC  

food, shelter, water?

2018-09-06 22:42:36 UTC  

People would do it themselves without the need of capital, money, or the state.

2018-09-06 22:42:46 UTC  

but why would they?

2018-09-06 22:43:13 UTC  

wait, you mean you as an individual, would do it for yourself?

2018-09-06 22:43:18 UTC  

Because people don't want to be naked, cold or dehydrated lol

2018-09-06 22:43:27 UTC  

People would do it collectively.

2018-09-06 22:43:52 UTC  

Parents would still care for their children, and entirely new social organization would sprout up.